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God Promised salvation through the seed to Adam and Eve. If He would have wiped out all of Humanity, with out a Noah, then that would have made Him an Oath breaker. A sinner. Then again none of us would be around to bear witness to His sin, but I personally have Faith in God and that He has Integrity, He is Just and Keeps His Promises, so I live my life according to that Faith. So I would say No, He wouldn't.
Something to keep in mind here is the occurrence of these catastrophic events is based on a cycle that God placed in motion from creation. It’s the difference between an appointed event and an unappointed imminent event that can happen whenever.
Keep in mind, God wasn’t waiting for Noah to complete the ark to start the deluge. Noah completed the ark and all his preparations and entered the ark one whole week prior to the start of the deluge because it was set for an appointed time, Noah just didn’t know the exact day or hour.
Had Noah failed to build or provision the ark as God instructed, it is arguably possible that He would have been starting over. I think, though possible, it would have been unlikely that he would have moved the appointed event. Just my opinion.
My take away right now is that God would not have brought the Flood until He had a Noah. It does immediately beg the question then what else is being held back because we aren’t being obedient.
Remember that what we bind on earth is bound in heaven and vice versa.
It does immediately beg the question then what else is being held back because we aren’t being obedient.
Remember that what we bind on earth is bound in heaven and vice versa.
Something to keep in mind here is the occurrence of these catastrophic events is based on a cycle that God placed in motion from creation. It’s the difference between an appointed event and an unappointed imminent event that can happen whenever.
Keep in mind, God wasn’t waiting for Noah to complete the ark to start the deluge. Noah completed the ark and all his preparations and entered the ark one whole week prior to the start of the deluge because it was set for an appointed time, Noah just didn’t know the exact day or hour.
Had Noah failed to build or provision the ark as God instructed, it is arguably possible that He would have been starting over. I think, though possible, it would have been unlikely that he would have moved the appointed event. Just my opinion.
God Promised salvation through the seed to Adam and Eve. If He would have wiped out all of Humanity, with out a Noah, then that would have made Him an Oath breaker. A sinner. Then again none of us would be around to bear witness to His sin, but I personally have Faith in God and that He has Integrity, He is Just and Keeps His Promises, so I live my life according to that Faith. So I would say No, He wouldn't.
Reminds me of God nearly killing the children of Israel and telling Moses he would raise up another multitude through him. Moses' reply of "if you kill them kill me too" caused God to turn away from his anger. If Moses died too there would be no one left of Abraham's seed and the covenant would be broken. Like you said God will not break covenant.
I am uncomfortable saying I know Gods point of view that He didn't state clearly say in scripture.
If God doesn't react, why pray for help? There's no need to then.
Gods will is for all to repent and seek salvation (plan for individuals that free will can mess up), also to tabernacle with His people in New Jerusalem (predestined plan for the ecclesia) scripture makes that clear. It also makes it clear that not all will repent and seek salvation. New Jerusalem will be here on earth no matter what, scripture is clear on that. "
The Nineveh event was predestined to happen whether it was Jonah obeying The Father and denying his own will by following Gods will or if God used someone else. One example that Gods will be carried out regardless of who does it: Deborah told Barak that if they did things his way the glory would be someone else's a woman's. That shows Barak had a choice, one way led to his glory, the other one to another's glory, either way Gods will was still upheld.
I agree here too. Ninevah was as much about trying to save a multitude of people as it was trying to get through to a hard headed racist. Now Jonah had good reason to hate the ninevites knowing how they had killed plenty of Jews but God used Jonah to teach us. I would suggest you don't go hating on muslims unless you want to get eaten by a fish.
Another good example of how God's will works with ours is the story of Esther. Mordicai tell Esther she was brought into the kingdom for a time such as this. However if she did not rise to the occasion and stand in for her people, her and her father's house would die but God would raise up another. She would perish BUT God's will would still be accomplished. This is the perfect picture of God's will interacting with ours. It is in our best interest to just do as the lord says because through us or another, it is going to happen.
And all the non free will people, why don't God just make us do his will instead of threatening us to do it? I mean he obviously wanted to save the Children of Israel here. Seems like he should just make us do it. Seems to me he is more of a father having to constantly correct and reward his children to get them to act right.
There is no reason to believe they were already closed in and the flood was his death year. Most hebrew sources believe he died and they mourned for 7 days because it's custom and the main reason is Mathusla's nam e. Mathusla means: His death shall bring. It was God's last warning to the people about to die. They knew the death of Mathusla was supposed to bring something.
Man is appointed to be mortal and sorrowful. But the Praise of the Lord will descend, dedicated that His death shall bring the desparing, low, and poor comfort.
There is no reason to believe they were already closed in and the flood was his death year. Most hebrew sources believe he died and they mourned for 7 days because it's custom and the main reason is Mathusla's nam e. Mathusla means: His death shall bring. It was God's last warning to the people about to die. They knew the death of Mathusla was supposed to bring something.
The door wasn’t closed for 7 days. And yet they stayed on the ark. I’m aware that Methusaleh died that year. My contention? Is that he died 7 days before the flood began.
From what I’ve seen, the custom is to mourn for a month, at least in Moses case. Perhaps that was an anomaly or I understood it wrong.
