PeteR said
I LOVE that response! That is pure gold!
I LOVE that response! That is pure gold!
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General Refuting 119 ministries' Unbiblical Anti-Poly Video
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You are playing my song!
When I just checked @FollowingHim ’s comment was first after my own. It seems to show the comments it thinks you’d like first.
I am pretty sure that only African Americans were enslaved by the time of the War of 1812. Indentured servitude was pretty bad, but it wasn't sustainable, especially since the Americans had been independent of the British for almost 40 years, by that point in time. It's not hard to put yourself in the mind of a slave who is under cruel oppression, thinking that fighting for one side, will not only liberate themselves, but all people who were enslaved. Slavery had not yet been abolished in the British Empire, but the slave trade had been abolished, by that point in time, and as it turned out, though no one could have foreseen the future, the British abolished slavery 30 years before the United States did.
@The Revolting Man, I check the order by opening it in a second browser where I am not logged in. Then you can see what is presented to everyone else, to avoid being tricked by YouTube's personalisation.
Well for now, we're back to the top 12 comments being positive (good work everyone), so it's still ticking along well.
If anyone actually has an organised approach to swinging this the other way they will succeed, or if 119 decides they're sick of it and start deleting our comments. I agree it won't last forever. But for now it is hopefully causing a few people to think.
The sad thing is, right now the Thumbs up/Thumbs down ratio, is 149:28, as of this posting.
I commented where some guy claimed Abraham transgressed Yah's law. He had a verbose response and implied I put Abraham on a pedestal. I am shocked when people run Abraham down because Yah never criticized the man, and he had face to face interactions with the The Almighty.
I'm not so sure that the consequence for cursing his descendants is the same. That was spoken to Abraham with the specific word 'you' used in English translations.
Yah did and does purpose to bless Abraham's descendants, but He also promised to deal with them as sons, chastising them when they need it.
Since Yah promises curses on Israelites that don't walk right, I really believe if someone cursed an Israelite that stole from him as an example it would not be held against him.
That verse is often said, and often applied to people called Jews, but I fear the secular anti Christ possible imposters use it as a shield against anyone that might criticize the State of Israel, or individual Israelis.
People like their ears tickled more then truth. I agree its sad.
Human farming is what central governments do. Since the first king of Babylon, and continuing until Yeshua fully establishes the kingdom, acting free can have political consequences. Just look at the myriad of laws so called in the so called land of the free.
There is a wonderful movie called Amazing Grace about the man who worked to end the slave trade in England. Sadly America just changed from private endentured servatude with the 14th amendment to the previously free people being reclassified under the fed. It is when we went into the prophesied end times captivity mentioned in scripture. Without looking at the global big picture, most Americans are less free then some in Europe, but don't realize it. Thankfully Yah gives us hope that this will end. I hope I live to see it change.
I saw you as #2 when I logged in about 17 hours ago.
It's curious to see the gender disparity. The women were posting persuasions based on emotive reasons. The men were posting based on concrete, scripture based arguments. On tactical points, the men have the match won, but the women are playing a whole different game! Interesting.
I couldn’t help it! I went there to help with likes and got sucked into responding to a few.
This is a key point. Think of how Trump got media attention. Every time they attack the truth, it gives us eyeballs and a chance to reach their viewers. This sort of work can have a tangible impact on public opinion.
Yep you're planting seeds, if not in their minds then in the hearts of others who read.
That was such an awesome movie. The man's name is William Wilberforce. It has some cool scenes in there with a man who plays the role of John Newton. I highly recommend the film. Also, I would recommend "Amistad". Excellent film!
I like to think of it as "nudging them in the right direction". Fence sitters come over to our side, those diametrically opposed, perhaps not so much, and those who are kind of against it, but not sure why, can become fence sitters.
I just came across one comment where they are trying to promote the Essenes teaching:
This is not the first time I have seen someone try to promote this "Damascus Document" as if it were inerrant Scripture.
Here is what Zadok 7 says:
On another YouTube video, a user posted that John the Baptist was an Essene, and so that somehow lends validity to this previously unknown Scripture.
This is not the first time I have seen someone try to promote this "Damascus Document" as if it were inerrant Scripture.
Here is what Zadok 7 says:
On the surface, it sounds like this is saying that having a second wife is wrong, even after your first wife dies, but I anticipate someone will argue that the phrase "during their lifetime", means the lifetime of the two wives. I responded that the claim that David did not know the law, is false.
On another YouTube video, a user posted that John the Baptist was an Essene, and so that somehow lends validity to this previously unknown Scripture.
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It is a sectarian text. Pharisees and Sadducees had them as well. It is more accurately described as commentary rather than scripture. Its been a while since I read it but I don’t think they considered it to be scripture, just sect rules
It does have value in understanding cultural norms of the day, however the sectarian docs should be understood as sect norms, not culture in general
It does have value in understanding cultural norms of the day, however the sectarian docs should be understood as sect norms, not culture in general
Way to go Jeremy!!!!
One fence sitter, likely persuaded!
Shawn Kovac1 day ago
@Jeremy, thanks, Jeremy! i did easily find the refutation that you mentioned. i started reading it. GREAT content!! thanks so much! it's a long video and a long transcript, so it might take me days to get thru it.But i think worth it in order to dig deep into Abba's truth! Thanks so much!!
Hall of Faith.... Hebrews 11:8-19
Just thought I'd let you know that over on Facebook, 119 Ministries themselves "liked" this comment of mine. So there may be some openness there to think about this further.