Thanks for clarifying. I understand what you are saying. However, there were many times that the Children of Israel where in sin and rebellion against God, but it seems that those were the times God spoke through His prophets the most, loud and clear.
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The still small voice
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That sir he did but there's a time between most of the prophets where G-d seems to be silent. There was a time in Israel's past that there were no righteous men to hear the word of G-d they had all turned there back on G-d. So G-d made Deborah, a righteous woman, a Prophet and the people made her a Judge. Maybe during those 400 years there was no rightous men or women to here Him and be a prophet. So He was patient and waitied until His plan came to fruitation and came down and spoke directly to all of us.
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When God created the first Adam, He breathed into him the “breath of life” and Adam became a living soul (Genesis 2:7).
John 20:22 And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
Job 12:10 In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.
Try this:
Think Yahweh.
Breath in, think Yah
Breath out, think weh.
Every living creature says the name of God every time they breath. Small voices.
John 20:22 And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
Job 12:10 In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.
Try this:
Think Yahweh.
Breath in, think Yah
Breath out, think weh.
Every living creature says the name of God every time they breath. Small voices.
Ding, ding, ding. Same experience. Once. Felt like a cattle prod hit me at the same time two very short sentences were firmly and clearly stated inside my head but felt like thunder. Still gets me excited and fearful when I think of it. Changed my life in an instant.
@Cindy and @Ancient Paths I love those moments! They are real bonding faith strengthening moments with Yahweh.
I have learned when I have moments like that they aren't always ment for me to share with others sometimes it is a moment He wants to share with His bride.
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I have learned when I have moments like that they aren't always ment for me to share with others sometimes it is a moment He wants to share with His bride.
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Sounds like my son who had been seeking the Father for what he was to do and the answer was nursing school. Today, loves what he does and is about to start his master's. But, nursing and germs were farthest thing from his mind until he came down stairs one day and said, "must be God, because I would never choose thus. I think He wants me to be a nurse."
You mean with one of His brides, yes?I have learned when I have moments like that they aren't always meant for me to share with others sometimes it is a moment He wants to share with His bride.
YES LOLYou mean with one of His brides, yes?
What did the voice sound like?
Morgan Freem.... jk.
Seriously, it was firm and commanding, but peaceful and quiet. Still, ....electric in every fiber of my being. I was driving a bus and felt as if I would have been thrown out of my seat except for the seatbelt. I was jacked for hours.
Nothing audible. I had a passenger who heard nothing, but it seemed to come from outside and inside simultaneously.... only experience like that I've ever had.
Thank you. To put it in a word, very other worldly?
I just want to confirm one that, will explain later, the voice did not sound like your own? He spoke with a different voice (tonality wise) than the one you hear when you speak or speak mentally to yourself?
rockfox, the way I usually describe this just eliminates the 'voice' component, unless it's a true audible voice (much more rare). If I tell you "my first vehicle was a '69 GMC van", you are now in possession of knowledge you did not previously have. Now take away what you've just seen in print (or if we were together in meatspace, take away the sound of my voice telling you that factoid). What if you just suddenly knew that my first vehicle was a '69 GMC van? I think that's what many people are referring to when they refer to the 'voice' of God—an awareness of incoming communication coupled with the self-awareness that it is not of their own manufacture.
It's easier when the knowledge communicated is counter-intuitive (like the nurse example above), and requires a bit more discernment when the 'voice' or 'knowledge' could have been something your subconscious served up, but exactly in the same way that 'getting to know the sound' of a person's voice requires time spent with that person, enough time on task listening to and discerning the voice of the Holy Spirit will improve your accuracy.
Right. Was not my voice and the statement was from well outside my wheelhouse. Ultimately, it is what put me on this journey.
Agree with everything you've written as this is normally how I hear Him, but this particular ocassion was decidedly different as @rockfox asks.
Different in what way? I may have just missed something, but what's the difference between this
and this?
Thank you both for humoring my questions on this. This is all very foreign to me so I'm trying to feel out how things work. Scripture does not go into great detail and there are so many false teachers and teachings it is hard to know what to think.
I see what you are saying andrew. That is what I would argue is a gift of knowledge from God. Whereas Ancient Path is describing hearing the voice of God (not unlike the young Samuel).
It is an important distinction.
A lot of people testify that God told them to do such and such, where such is a clearly delineated in scripture as a sin. It was just temptation or their own desires speaking to them. Likewise I once asked this question of a prophet from a charasmaticish denomination who was 'teaching' people to prophecy. He testified that his and other's experience was that God talked to them in their mind using their own voice (the mental voice they hear when actually talk to themselves). But they have no way of knowing it was from God and not manufactured in their own mind.
And the testimony of the scriptures (such as Samuel) is as if the prophet and God are having a conversation audibly; not that God talked to them using the recipient's mental voice.
Scientifically this is interesting as well. There are 3 different kinds of voices in the brain. Their is the literal (outward) voice, which you speak and others hear and you hear from others through your hear. Their is the resonate voice (inward), what your brain picks up from your voice resonating through your bones. And their is the mental voice (inward), which you use when you talk silently to yourself. When you talk out loud, that mental voice is used to register with your brain what you are saying. The brain actually turns off your auditory processing of the literal voice; you hear it but never processes the sound waves; which is why hearing yourself on a recording is freaky. You've never heard that voice before.
So in light of that; a prophet who think's God talks to him using his own mental voice, could just have an overactive imagination. On the other hand, when @Ancient Paths hear's someone else's voice "come from outside and inside simultaneously" that communicates something else entirely.
This:
"every hair on my body stood up....It was incredible and to this day gives me chills."
and this:
"electric in every fiber of my being....felt as if I would have been thrown out of my seat except for the seatbelt. I was jacked for hours."
communicate a sense of connection with something distinctly other, powerful, spiritual that is seemingly distinctly lacking in those who
I see what you are saying andrew. That is what I would argue is a gift of knowledge from God. Whereas Ancient Path is describing hearing the voice of God (not unlike the young Samuel).
It is an important distinction.
A lot of people testify that God told them to do such and such, where such is a clearly delineated in scripture as a sin. It was just temptation or their own desires speaking to them. Likewise I once asked this question of a prophet from a charasmaticish denomination who was 'teaching' people to prophecy. He testified that his and other's experience was that God talked to them in their mind using their own voice (the mental voice they hear when actually talk to themselves). But they have no way of knowing it was from God and not manufactured in their own mind.
And the testimony of the scriptures (such as Samuel) is as if the prophet and God are having a conversation audibly; not that God talked to them using the recipient's mental voice.
Scientifically this is interesting as well. There are 3 different kinds of voices in the brain. Their is the literal (outward) voice, which you speak and others hear and you hear from others through your hear. Their is the resonate voice (inward), what your brain picks up from your voice resonating through your bones. And their is the mental voice (inward), which you use when you talk silently to yourself. When you talk out loud, that mental voice is used to register with your brain what you are saying. The brain actually turns off your auditory processing of the literal voice; you hear it but never processes the sound waves; which is why hearing yourself on a recording is freaky. You've never heard that voice before.
So in light of that; a prophet who think's God talks to him using his own mental voice, could just have an overactive imagination. On the other hand, when @Ancient Paths hear's someone else's voice "come from outside and inside simultaneously" that communicates something else entirely.
This:
"every hair on my body stood up....It was incredible and to this day gives me chills."
and this:
"electric in every fiber of my being....felt as if I would have been thrown out of my seat except for the seatbelt. I was jacked for hours."
communicate a sense of connection with something distinctly other, powerful, spiritual that is seemingly distinctly lacking in those who
Well, except that AP already said 'nothing audible', so we're either quibbling or just gradually converging on something.
I share all your concerns with people bootstrapping their own impulses into 'direction from the Holy Spirit', let alone 'the voice of God'. Let's move past what it's not to what it is.
For along time I kept feeling that G-d wanted me to do something. I did everything I could think of. I got involved in as many ministries as possible, stretching myself thin and putting hardships on my family. I thought that he wanted us to downsize the stuff we'd accumulated I sold and donated the money or gave away about 80% of what we had including one of out vehicles. In the end it's when I stoped moving that he spoke and told me what I was failing to do. Not audible voice but a silence to the nagging feeling that He wants me to do something that I was failing to do and gave me peace. An end to the anxiety of knowing He wanted me on a path and I wasn't walking it. By a rush of understanding, not of why He wanted me on that path (it still perplexes me) but that I was walking in His will.
I took from this he did he hear it audibly, but no one else did so he figured it wasn't. Which is exactly what I'd expect to happen if God was audibly talking to one person (something others were not to hear) or to a prophet for him to communicate something to others. But it also seemed to be in his head like an inner voice, unlike normal audible speech.
I just thought nothing audible meant nothing audible. @Ancient Paths, help us out!