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Knowing the season

Time for another update on 'the season':
for those who are interested in following the unfolding Greater Depression, this latest missive by Jim Willie is again worth a read:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08 ... 91009.html

Most here are aware that I am a proponent of honest money, both from the standpoint of the Bible (commanded by the Torah, and at least six mentions in Proverbs alone, including the observation that 'dishonest weights' and measures are an "abomination") and the Constitution (as if THAT still mattered :twisted: ).

It will be interesting to watch how the manipulation of the precious metals markets plays out from this point forward, as the "battle against $1000 gold" develops.

Take note of Jim's comments near the end of the article in particular. He notes that the Chinese are becoming "extremely angry" about the dollar debasement, and the perfidy of our own debtor government. I am beginning to suspect that they may decide to put a "floor" under the price of paper gold themselves, and simply absorb any manipulative selling that comes up to try and drive the price back down, with the obvious threat of taking additional deliveries -- until the Comex is exposed as bankrupt. (Why not? It's essentially taxpayer-subsidized.)

Whether or not this is the case will be clear in the near future, based on contract deliveries.


Finally, I noted in the last post that this coming Yom Teruah (Feast of Trumpets), which begins on the new moon (about the 20th), is something for believers to be aware of. (Read Leviticus 23, and note that the singular requirement is essentially to learn what that trumpet sounds like. Almost like we're supposed to be listening, eh?)

Willie's last news item has to do with Saudi Arabia (again), and the observation that their banking system is also in a world of hurt. He makes an observation that really caught my eye:

...Expect a jihad from chaos in the Persian Gulf after Ramadan ends. Mayhem will be permitted at that time.

Ramadan, he notes, ends on September 19th.

I've also joked that we can "know the season", but that I "don't do dates". Some folks do, however. The interesting thing about this one is that it's easy to check, and soon.

Blessings,

Mark


PS> For those that are so inclined, I am a longstanding believer in the investment value of what is usually called "junk silver" as well. (These are bank bags of real lawful money, minted of 90% silver, and bearing dates of 1964 or earlier, before the debasement of our coin according to Gresham's Law went into overdrive. What was one thousand dollars of face value dimes or quarters [i.e., 10K dimes, or 4000 quarters] are in each one; they now sell for over about $12,000 a bag - but that won't last. When I did my radio show, I noted that history is pretty clear about how the upcoming cycle will end: one such bag will probably buy a decent little house in most areas. I still see no reason to change that prediction from an economic standpoint; the only question is whether we'll want to be in most of those cities at that point.)

I generally tell those who believe that "hard times are a-comin" to think of such small-denomination silver coins as not only the ultimate store of value in a true dollar collapse, but a way to save your fellow believers from some of the hardship sure to come, and educate people in the process. (I've talked a few medical professionals, and probably even butchers, bakers, and ...plumbers into considering taking them in trade for services. Fun stuff.) Those who have an alternative means of exchange (still lawful, no less) will be able to trade readily for things necessary for survival in most likely scenarios, at least until the Biblical Scale of Disaster becomes obvious to even the most skeptical. ;)
 
Time for another update. (And I hope those attending the gathering in Las Vegas were/are greatly blessed. Sorry we were unable.)

Tonight at local sunset begins the actual (based on the sighting of the new moon, in accord with God's Biblical reckoning) day of the first 'High' Sabbath associated with His Feast of Tabernacles. (aka "Sukkot" from the Hebrew for tents, the same word rendered in the Olde English as "mangers". ;) )

I am a firm Believer that His feasts constitute a "rehearsal" for things that are Yet To Come; this particular one, an eight-day joyful feast that is described metaphorically as the "Wedding Feast of the Lamb" has obvious prophetic significance, particularly if one studies all of the things that lead up to it, and are associated with it in both history AND propehcy. Please do a bit of study if this is a surprise (a chain-reference from Lev. 23 is a good place to start; that is the beginning of the sequence describing the "Fall Feasts" and, I contend, the events portending His Return, just as God's Spring Feasts describe His perfect Sacrifice.)

It is a time where we are instructed to remember the time of Israel in the Wilderness, and even to do a bit of practice by some "camping" ourselves. (And it's also worthy of note that a bit of Scripture study can show that Yeshua/Jesus was almost certainly born about now, rather than at the winter solstice. It was at THIS time, in a sukka, in the 'City of Bread', in the fall, when all the men of Judea were commanded by the Torah to dwell in booths. I'm happy to provide more info on that for any who have not heard, of course.)

It is indeed very important to learn to discern the season. I'll post a bit more news shortly - there is much happening in the world for those with "ears to hear".

Blessings,

Mark
 
MarkC,

This gentleman is new to me...

Michael Rood (a Messianic teacher) has a lecture series, which we saw live in Denver a couple years back, called The Jonah Code. He uses a different methodology (very much Scripture-based, but with a different set of starting points and some different data) but comes up with the same conclusion.

That DVD is now available of the presentation on his website:

http://www.michaelroodministries.com/michaelrood.htm

http://www.michaelroodministries.com/mm ... Code=Video

...does he come highly recommended across the board? Any comments or cautions?

Thank you,

Curtis
 
...does [Michael Rood] come highly recommended across the board? Any comments or cautions?

Like many folks who are outspoken, Michael Rood is certainly not without his critics. Before He became a Messianic teacher, he was involved in an evangelical ministry that he long ago renounced; he even made a 'confession' DVD a while back (which I really thought was wonderful) describing his 'sordid past' and how he came back to YHVH.

Personally, I think he's one of the very best teachers out there (Monty Judah is another personal favorite). Michael's forte is the Biblical Feasts and their significance (apropos to this topic) and the related issue of paganized traditions. For those things that he does well, I personally think he is without peer. All of his most recent stuff, in particular, is excellent; highly recommended, IMO.

Blessings,

Mark
 
I just took a quick glance at his doctrinal statement, but I could not tell if he is "oneness" or "unitarian". Does anyone know?
 
I don't know what I am on that scale, Randy. ;)

(Although I admit a bit of a knee-jerk negative rejection to anything that has a word like 'unitarian' associated with it; too many pagan connections.)
 
Thank you Mark. I would like to talk via telephone sometime in the future if that would be something you think you could see mutual benefit in.

Thanks again,

Curtis
 
Mark C said:
I don't know what I am on that scale, Randy. ;)

(Although I admit a bit of a knee-jerk negative rejection to anything that has a word like 'unitarian' associated with it; too many pagan connections.)

I understand. However, for those who may be offended about that, it would be good for them to know before going to that site where Rood is coming from. Without having all the information, he seems to actually lean toward unitarianism. Although most modern unitarianism embraces every evil under the Sun, there are those who claim to be Biblical Unitarians and have a few websites online.
 
The statements I am about to make are so easily misunderstood that I actually hesitate to make them and they are to be construed as general principals as opposed to a "word" against any actual use of labels in the context of this individual thread...

In our world of widely divergent views we often utilize various labels for ease of categorization thus communicative and cognitive convenience. The challenge is that in so doing we often restrict ourselves in finding the truth, for key parts of it may fall under a label in which we have a great aversion to find ourselves.

About 16-17 years ago, I was learning some powerful truths relating to the application of faith and starting to have a discomfort with perhaps stepping into the extremes that I had observed in the lives of others that bore a certain label that I desired to avoid and continue to. It was at this time when I was beginning to resist the leading of the Spirit that I was quickened the verse Ecc. 7:18.

It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this; yea, also from this withdraw not thine hand: for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all. -Ecc. 7:18

The translation of the verse that I had at the time back then ended with the words "a wise man will avoid all extremes"

It was spoken into my heart as a small river of flowing thought the following...

A wise man will avoid all extremes, even the extreme of going to the extreme avoiding extremes.

Is not a mere walk, a constant state of imbalance? If you fear one step the next will never follow.

All too often "our balance" is merely uniform weakness in all areas. Had I missed that lesson by not allowing it to be taken to completion in my attempt to "be balanced" I probably wouldn't even be here today let alone be who I am today. I am very excited about getting to better know some of you on this forum because I can see that you have allowed these processes to be worked in your lives resulting in highly valuable truths in which you now play the role of steward. As the true seekers and followers of Messiah come together we will all be furthered and strengthened in the "truth that sets us free".

I say all this in this context for really this one reason and this one reason only...

In the pursuit of the "restoration of all things" we must be ever mindful of the potential harm to the establishment of His kingdom in our lives that the inappropriate use of labels can play. I don't think it is possible to come into the fullness of what we are called to be as a people without providing the institutional religious system with reason to be able to consider themselves "to be doing God a service to you" (John 16:2) or at least oppose you. In so doing, all manner of labels will be used to gain acceptance for their actions as well as to provide "prohibition" to not heed the call of "Come out of her my people". (Rev. 18:4)

Sincerely and Respectfully,

Curtis
 
...for those who may be offended about that, it would be good for them to know before going to that site where Rood is coming from. Without having all the information, he seems to actually lean toward unitarianism. Although most modern unitarianism embraces every evil under the Sun, there are those who claim to be Biblical Unitarians and have a few websites online.

From what I've seen of "big-U" Unitarianism, Randy, I can't imagine anything farther from his teachings, or from what I would personally tolerate. I do, however, understand why some of the "Corporate Church" types would have a problem with Michael Rood. He pretty much "pulls no punches" about the fact that the Yeshua of Scripture taught against the "oral torah" or "traditions of the elders" (Pharisees), and that such still applies to "another Jesus" taught by many today.

On that score, of course, I agree.


(He upsets a LOT of folks by teaching quite viscerally about the pagan roots of both Easter and Xmas, too. I've gotten to enjoy singing a few carols celebrating His birth this week myself, since it's Sukkot. ;) )


I guess I'd have to add this, on a personal note:

Over the years, I've had "interludes" of being a bit hard-nosed (although I'm sure none here have ever noticed that :oops: ) and learning more than a few very wonderful things from teachers and pastors from whom I had REAL, even extreme, doctrinal differences. Whether it's pastors who take Caesar's mark, or believe that "the Law was done away with - here, have a pork sandwich", or even that "having a second wife is ADULTERY!" -- I've finally recognized that even being UTTERLY wrong in one area doesn't mean they can't teach about something which is actually in there sphere of expertise.

(Perhaps I should even mention a few such. A fellow named Pastor Henry Wright from Georgia has one of the most wonderful healing and deliverance ministries I've ever known. We have some real doctrinal differences, too, although they have narrowed considerably over the years I've talked to and followed his work. I've mentioned Monte Judah before; while he might best be described as "polygyny-neutral" or in the "not outlawed, not a good idea" camp, he is one of the best, consistent Torah and Yeshua preachers I've ever seen. And Michael Rood's forte is the Biblical Feasts, calendar-related prophecy, and exposing pagan roots and sacred cows: the "Jeremiah 16:19 study".)


Just don't believe everything you hear, and ALWAYS "be like the Bereans". I can test the spirits, and test the teaching against the Word on my own.


Blessings,

Mark

PS> The markets are REALLY taking the dollar to task today. Gold is at new, long-awaited, highs as I write. I'm still planning on putting another related update up as soon as I go through a bit of homework.
 
This has been a busy week for many of us no doubt, and I suspect that those who are traveling may not see this for a while, but I wanted to put an update in place anyway, even without much additional commentary for now.

This week's piece by Jim Willie is a "don't miss" summary of the economic meltdown-in-progress for those who continue to follow that aspect of "knowing the season":

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08 ... 00809.html
 
I continue to find that economics is a great way to get a good 'read' on what is happening in the world, and where we are headed. It really IS True that God has a very great interest in how we, as His people, deal with one another; after all, about half of the 'Big Ten' deal with such concerns, and in fact much of the entire "torah", or "teaching and instruction of Moses", has to do with very practical issues.

It has long been clear to me that the fully "fiat" or "Monopoly [TM] - like" paper currency that now passes for "money" but is based on absolutely nothing but debt and lies is due for a cataclysmic (some would even say "Biblical") collapse. I have noted on many occasions that our "system" of "dishonest weights and measures" is not only prohibited by Scripture, but called things like "abomination" at least a half-dozen times in the Book of Proverbs alone!

If the prophesied "greater Exodus" from a New Egypt or "new Babylon" is again accompanied by a judgment by the Real One-and-Only Creator YHVH against another set of ten fake gods (as the historic midrash about the original ten plagues against Egypt teaches) --
then it may well be that the Almighty Dollar, in whom Amerika REALLY trusts instead of God, will be Number 1 on that list!

Many here know that I follow a number of good analysts of world markets, and tend to take what is called an "Austrian School" position (which -- admittedly oversimplified ;) -- understands that debt is not real money, but does produce an alcohol-like hangover, as well as addictive behavior, and that big booms thus precede equally big busts; this one will be the biggest in history).

This week has seen the price of gold (and silver) "consolidate" above $1050/oz, well into previously-unknown four-figure levels. It does seem that a new phase of the continuing meltdown is in progress.

Below I'll again post a new link to Jim Willie's latest weekly article; he continues to be "dead on", IMO. There is much in this article about the new dollar "carry trade" trap, where the US begins to fall into the same type of situation which became what was called Japan's "Lost Decade". But Japan had many advantages that the US has squandered, as he explains.

Just as interesting is the continuing "China situation", and what is called the "Beijing Put". Briefly, again, China has over $2 Trillion in US debt and fiat that they cannot readily unload, but would like to. Some of that will end up being gold and silver metal reserves - but they cannot afford to buy it directly, or quickly, without exploding the price of precious metals, and collapsing the dollar. (Many colorful metaphors come to mind, of course, to describe the current game of chicken; "Mexican Standoff" is perhaps the most obvious.)

This may be the most important comment in the whole story:

In effect, the Chinese could be using a reverse strategy from technical analysis methods, dictated by chart patterns, by pressuring the bid harder with more purchases when the technical indicators say they should be selling. They would thus position themselves opposite to the USGovt, which routinely smacks gold down prior to USTreasury auctions, or when the USDollar threatens to break below support. They would also position themselves opposite to professional traders, who tend to follow the technicals and USGovt official control banter. The Chinese will continue to obstruct the gold interventions, as the US-UK fascist tagteam loses control.

Willie concludes this way:

Qin Weihuan is a researcher at China Gold Assn. He told China Daily, "In the past, gold prices dropped back after it hit over $1000 per ounce. But I believe this time the price has really breached the $1000 ceiling and will stay at these levels for some time." Qin believe gold has entered a new 'Era' as inflation fears and uncertainly over the world financial system will prompt investors to look for safe havens in bullion. China will soon take full control of the gold market, and render the global monetary crisis centered upon the USDollar ballistic.

Take a look:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08 ... 02109.html
Attack by Central Bank Lilliputians

It remains important that we, as good stewards, seek not only to manage well what He has given us, but that we be able to help and counsel others as what is coming continues to unfold.

May God bless you and yours,

Mark
 
Another update

It's been a while since I posted an update on this thread, but there has been a lot of action in the meanwhile anyway...

The economic meltdown that continues not only in progress, but to accelerate, has been increasingly obvious for a number of years for those with "eyes to see". I continue to believe that it represents the first of the judgments coming against the 'system of the world' that is in fact simply modern Babylon. The utterly corrupt system of "dishonest weights and measures" which has become the greatest economic fraud in world history is imploding - although the 'prince of this world' is hardly finished with it yet.

The precious metals market (real weights, not paper contracts like ETFs or the Comex/etc futures markets which are used to perpetuate the fraud) is a great barometer of the timing of the meltdown. Watch for the "spread" between the price people are willing to pay for actual physical "money" and paper promises (which are being exposed for simple lies) to increase dramatically.

(As a friend of mine, who also still does a radio show on economic issues, likes to remark - if someone breaks into your house, are you going to confront them with a paper receipt that says you have a gun somewhere in storage? It won't help, even if you yell, "bang".)

Several weeks ago there were reports that a number of 400 oz gold bars were found by Asian purchasers to have been counterfeit, having been filled with tungsten. ("Dross", if you will; tungsten has a specific gravity almost identical to gold, making the fraud more difficult to expose without assay techniques.)

Update: I need to add a bit of commentary on this point: At the point where the integrity -- actually lack thereof -- of "repositories" like the Comex is exposed to investors, 'the jig is up'. It appears that foreign governments, having already figured it out, are beginning to take matters into their own hands.

Jim Willie's latest is full of information on the continuing judgment of Amerika/Babylon and the dishonest "money" system:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08 ... 11809.html


I continue to believe that the "season" is increasingly obvious to those who follow Him. We are called not only to be "salt and light", but ready "in season and out", so that ultimately we may "come out of her" and not partakers of her "plagues".



Blessings,

Mark
 
Yes money is a real problem, equal measure and equal weights. Any person milking cows this year can tell you this. There is another huge event talked about in Rev. and Daniel that is going to take place Dec. 1 2009.
Revelation chapter 13 will come to life Dec.1. This is the first day of the new Roman Empire ruling Europe. The newly elected president came right from Brussels Belgium. Watch the news from over there alot more is to happen in a short period of time. :evil:


Dairyfarmer
 
Interestingly, DF, the December date is also one that corresponds to a number of potentially major bits of news on the economic front as well. Before the month is out, we'll also see what happens with Comex contract deliveries (gold and silver) - and whether the "jig is up" there or will take a while longer.


(Sorry to hear you've had a rough year as well, but unfortunately there's much difficulty to be had in a Depression. Sadly, the only folks that seem to be doing well are the UberCrooks, at places like Goldman-Sachs and the other "too big to fail" purveyors of fiat.)

Blessings,
Mark
 
Science Fraud!

While I have yet to see much real coverage of this scam on the TV news, or Bought-and-Paid-For-Press, there is much awareness of it in the 'blogosphere':

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=116840

The fact that AGW, or "Anthropogenic Global Warming" is nothing but pseudo-scientific hot air has been an open secret for years among those with an engineering or science bent, but whose salaries are NOT paid by Government or the Green Lobby. It's also no secret how data can be "massaged" by those with an agenda. (Michael Chriton wrote a great novel about the techniques and politics of the AGW scam a few years before his death, State of Fear.)

I find the "hacking" of a database containing vast amounts of evidence about the AGW "science" fraud* interesting for a number of reasons related to "knowing the season".

First, obviously, the Sky-is-falling panic, which requires a Beast Government in order to prevent [fill-in-latest-Dire-Threat-here] is about as clear a sign of the times as one could ask.

More interesting, however, is the degree of hubris involved. While the Bible warns against the tendency of man to say "by my own hand I have done this", and advises us to be 'good stewards' of His creation, there is a certain blindness inherent in thinking man's efforts, for good OR for evil, have the effect that the would-be Masters of Earth proclaim.

All of man's combined contribution to the "carbon footprint" of the world (much less specific compounds, like CO2) amount to a literally tiny percentage of what happens naturally. (And something like one decent volcano can put all of man's "efforts" in context!)

I can't help but think that when the REAL "Changes" come, it will amount to God essentially saying, "You wanna see Climate change? A real Apocalypse? I'll show you something to remember!"

Finally, and certainly most encouragingly, such exposure - even if largely ignored by the "media" at large - is a great "mission tool", to show those who still have doubts about the Creator of the Universe that there is more to 'the Truth' than they have heard!

Many people tend to treat Science as an Idol, if not even a 'god'. And, likewise, those who reject God also tend to think of "religion" as the "opiate of the people", or something filled with hypocrisy and fraud. Those of us who have come to recognize that we should not, in general, confuse "religion" with the fact that He exists, Wrote a Book for us, and redeemed us, often see it differently!

As we watch how this story plays out, it will provide good insight into how this particular Religion of AGW handles false prophets in its CyberTemple.

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* Perhaps a few more good links can be added as a footnote below, too.
New information suggests not only that the data was fudged, and those who were inclined to skepticism or "whistleblowing" were not only shunned, but summarily executed in a professional sense, but even shows how specific software mods were shared to rig the climate models so that they give the "proper" answers!

Here's a link to actual "CRU" data (while it lasts...):

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernande ... -cru-hack/
 
Gold for years has been a source of measurement; that’s all it is. There seems to be a discussion about Gold, Silver, and other precious medals to have on hand in the event of an economic disaster. I would agree that we should have some (barter-able) provisions in place to avert disaster, but Gold or Silver would not be one of them. Gold and other precious medals is a store of wealth, providing that you have all your bills paid; have your pantry filled; and have other types of commodities in place. If the dollar fails (fiat money in general) and another form of currency is put in place (probable another fiat currency), you are ASSUMING that your gold will be accepted in exchange (Speculative Investing). Looking at history, Gold was once outlawed in this country and to own it was a federal crime (10 years in jail and/or $10,000 fine). President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed Executive Order 6102 (Still on the books as an active Executive Order), on April 5, 1933. It forbids any American citizen from holding Gold Coins, Gold Bullion or Gold Certificates. Again you’re ASSUMING that history will NOT repeat itself. The one thing I have found out about the Government; they cannot be trusted to do the right thing. Especially if there is precedence.

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want. But I believe this push to buy Gold on all the talk shows, Christian Radio, and other conservative publications is nothing more that well placed advertising. I see the “Powers behind the Scene” allowing Gold and Silver to be obtained (by the common man) as a means to tie up our assets that could other-wise be used in a more financially faithful (stewardship) manner. In short a means to get all our money. Once “they” have all the wealth we have, including this second round of the 410k’s by the remaining idiots in the stock market. The market will crash again and BAM—Gold ownership is outlawed, and then how do you provide for your family?

I am one of those guys who made preparation for Y2K. Everything I bought has been of value, except the Gold. I began to realize the Gold has no workable or barter value (except to a very small circle of like minded individuals). So I took some of my Gold and attempted to sell it. I found out that when I bought my first bit of Gold, it had a spot price of around $285 an oz. I paid about $400 an oz, not realizing I was paying for a 40% mark-up. When started to realize how useless Gold really was for day-to-day transactions, I attempted to sell it back to an exchange and was given 40% less than spot price. Today, I heard Gold hit the $1200, making the actual exchange price 40% less or approx $720. Not much of a deal. Needless-to-say, I have none, and will not ever have it again. The only people making money off of Gold are the gold exchanges and dealers. The common guy who buys Gold is a NUT. Especially if you consider that the money you invest is no longer working for you, rather it has been place in limbo.

I believe that we should be looking to be a witness to a hurting world. If you have a ton of Gold and no food; what do you feed your family with, “Gold”? So you come to me and offer me Gold for a loaf of bread…Not interested. But if you offer me a box of nails or some garden seeds then we have something to barter with. The reason I don’t want the Gold or Silver, is what do I do with it? I believe I read something in scripture that says “…the streets in heaven will be paved with Gold…” If you really feel the Lord leading you make preparations, let’s look at five gallon buckets of cracked wheat, medical supplies, self help books, fuel for your generator, or an extra cord of firewood. Take that money you were thinking of using for Gold and GET OUT OF DEBT!!!! Don’t ever use a credit card to buy Gold (That is speculative investing). Gold recently has showed a 17% gain in the last year. But, I’ll bet that most people owe more in combined monthly debt (House, Car, and Credit Cards) than what that 17% would ever give you.

Call me a fool, but instead of Gold I stock my pantry, buy non-hybrid seeds, lay my hands on all the self reliant books I can find. Be more eco-friendly, network with others of like mind. Remember, you can’t do everything or cover every contingency. But do what you can (what the Lord has blessed you with) and then work together as a Christian Family bartering for what you don’t have, but need.

Blessings to all.

BigMike
 
Guess I should address this, Big Mike, but I think you've gotten VERY much the wrong impression, both about this thread in particular and my own thoughts and understanding, to the extent that they have been expressed here, about gold and silver.

The general title "Knowing the Season" came about in reference to the prophetic metaphor used by our Savior. While I actually contend that the original (probably Hebrew) phrase "no man knows the day or the hour" was a clear hint referring to the Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah), because it was commonly CALLED by that euphemism, it was clearly understood that we COULD "know the season" if we pay attention, and have "eyes to see".

Most of the things I have posted over the last couple of months or so have dealt with economics because I contend that economics is one of of the most obvious ways to "know the season". Things are being revealed there that will very deeply, and permanently, affect both this nation, and the world. I contend personally as well that they are very much in line with prophecy, and what we, as believers, are to do about it. Since "iron sharpens iron," your comments are much appreciated.

But - on to a couple of specifics, just to make some of those distinctions clear. My own study of the Bible has convinced me that YHVH has MUCH to say about how we deal with one another honestly ('economics', if you will) -- and that what is often called dishonest "weights and measures" are a key element of that. (He calls them "abominations", and makes no less than six such references in Proverbs alone; our fiat dollar, I contend, is exactly such an abomination. I doubt that the irony of the lie "In God We Trust" on something He is so critical of is lost on Him.)

I personally believe that we will see a number of judgments, and the destruction of the "Almighty Dollar" -- in progress -- may well be the first. Unfortunately, both history and the Word show that war almost always follows immediately thereafter.*

To everything there is a season...

My own intent in this thread was not to give "investment advice", of course, although even on that theme there is a "a time" to modify one's choices. But there does come a time when we are to "come out of her", so as not to "partake" of the plagues, literal and figurative, to come. I believe that such "coming out" is important to consider if this "season" is the one we have been so vividly warned about.

To the extent that exchange of a dishonest "weight", or means of exchange, for an honest one is part of that process of helping His people to "come out of a system" which is headed for destruction, I am a supporter. (Which is not at all to say one should not provide for his house, and for others, in every way possible; food, clothing, shelter. Grain is generally cheapest after the harvest; gold is cheap when the price is artificially suppressed. The prudent will "know the season" for both.)

Those who "come out of" one system of exchange ("dollars") will probably need another (such as pre-1964 silver dimes, or ????? - whatever) in the interval preceding the 'mark' to come (IF that is in fact the season we are approaching. ;) ) In any event, a "means of honest exchange" is only one part of a complete solution - obviously food, tools, skills, wise preparations, compassion for neighbors, knowledge of the Word, and many other necessities are important.

Perhaps a "Come out of her" thread might be a good idea as well...
(or a "Warning Trumpet" area for those who are inclined toward the "watchman on the wall" admonition of sounding the shofar!)

As prudent stewards, we are to "build our house upon the Rock". But none of the advice He gives us is mutually exclusive, particularly if we "know the season" and seek to be guided by Him, in wisdom.


Blessings,
Mark





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* A footnote here: I DO think that the "Goldfinger 2009" story of the ongoing "great gold heist" is amazing in this regard. Most Americans have no clue about how badly they have been lied to concerning the current economic meltdown, literally ongoing for decades. Call me a "conspiracy theorist," too, on this one if you like, since the evidence is undeniable. Well over 10,000 TONS of gold which do NOT EXIST (!) have been sold into a paper market over the last ten years in order to suppress the only honest barometer of "devaluation" (the Biblical equivalent of a "heavy" weight on the Bankster's "scale") most people have. Official "statistics" are simply lies. (See John Williams' shadowstats.com) The US is literally bankrupt. Stories of gold-plated tungsten preceding a default on the Comex may eventually be one of the most critically UN-reported elements of the "beginning of the end". Wars have been started for less.
 
In Turkey, and the Middle East in general, gold is still a valued security. In Turkey brides get it at their wedding, and it adorns her until the couple hits a financial problem. Then it's sold to help them live. Apparently you even buy gold for when a baby is born, again as a security. Over here, in Kuwait, the rich kuwaities buy jewelry by the kilo when they fall for a girl and go get her as a wife (imagine walking into a jewelry store and asking for 10 pounds). A friend of mine said, as soon as a pretty girl walks by they give up half their kingdom for her. :lol:
 
I realized the other day that I hadn't updated this thread (nor had there been any other activity, obviously) in quite some time, although current events probably make the point even more definitively now than when it was initiated.

As I indicated some time ago, my own opinion has always been that the economic situation was well beyond redemption, and that the collapse of the 'almighty dollar' was inevitable. Certainly the spate of recent news does nothing but bolster that observation.

But the situation in the Gulf provides an amazing parallel to the economic disaster now playing out. Below are some comments summarized from recent radio teachings and articles on the "come out of her" theme, FYI:


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Two plagues: BP vs the Fed


Original date: June 14th, 2010

This last week I was struck by the stunning similarities which exist between what, I will shortly argue, may well be the first two “plagues” visited upon a post-Constitutional, post-Biblical Babylon –er, Amerika.

I saw a transcript of some of the whoppers that Fed Chairman ‘Helicopter Ben’ Bernake was spouting before Congress, and then a set of comments by BP Chairman Tony Hayward. The latter was somehow linked to an article describing how Obama has said that “if he worked for me” the man would have been fired (to put it charitably). The fact that the Decider in Chief picked on Hayward for his lies, but hasn’t expressed similar sentiment over those told by the Fed (and the related assortment of liars, charlatans, and Goldman-Sachs execs — or do I repeat myself ?) is telling. The irony that most of the Amerikan public may well think the same thing about the whole mess of ‘em is obviously beyond their ken as well.

The “Bumbler from BP”, as the press refers to Hayward in some cases, has been criticized for denying the severity of the oil ‘volcano’ spewing into the Gulf of Mexico, minimizing some of the important statistics, and worrying more about the price of his stock than the collateral damage.

Funny: it occurs to me that ‘Bumbler Bernake’ can justifiably be accused of exactly the same thing! In his case, of course, the “stock price” is the value of the “almighty” dollar, and the interest rate on its bonds.

Both are salesmen, and both are obviously willing to distort the truth in order to sell the same story: Not to worry, we have EVERYTHING under control. The worst is behind us. Trust us.

Whether it’s “green shoots” or “blue water”, the jargon may be different, but the attitude and actions are virtually the same.

Eventually, I concluded that the comparisons were so dramatic that some type of a chart was required…even if I intended to initially discuss the concept on the radio.

Let’s start with a couple of the things that so clearly apply to both disasters…the economic meltdown, and the oil eruption:

* Both chairmen, and their underlings, seem to consider themselves Masters of the Universe.
* Neither are in fact God – although they like to play Him on TV
* But both are directly involved with disasters of literally “Biblical” proportions!
* Both seem to be far more concerned with their respective ’stock prices’ than any ‘collateral damage’ (since most of their TV ‘face time’ seems dedicated to this task, it bears repeating!)
* It seems all but obvious that the same victims (take just one guess) will ultimately pay the costs of both

There are more fascinating similarities, too.

Most dramatically, the multiple “cracks and fissures” that thwart efforts to cap, plug, or curtail the respective plagues have much in common. BP’s well blew out the safety systems with physical pressures that boggle the mind. Where other deep-water wells in the region have reportedly involved pressures of perhaps 1500 psi, estimates on this one range from at least 20,000 pounds per square inch to over 70,000! Such pressures are so high that cracks and fissures develop along the ‘path of least resistance’ and result in multiple vents…some perhaps miles away, to the point that there may by now be significant undermining of the seabed floor in the area. Likewise, pressure built up through multiple financial bubbles also results in obvious “cracks and fissures” in the economy. Bailouts, of course, don’t manage to “cap” the problem, but merely to produce cracks in other economic areas — some separated not only by miles, but entire continents.

BP’s well is spewing out toxic chemical byproducts, from hydrogen sulfide and methane to benzene — known as “volatile organic compounds”, or VOCs. The Fed’s plague spews out toxic assets.

Even the jargon has a familiar parallel-sounding familiarity by now. Deep-water wells have BOPs, or “Blow-out preventers”, while manipulated markets have “circuit breakers”. Both seem to fail at the worst possible times.

Finally, look at the bottom line:

The Deepwater Horizon oil volcano in the Gulf of Mexico may represent the biggest failed hole in the ground in history.

The Federal Reserve, not to be outdone, has presided over — without doubt — the biggest debt hole in all of human history.

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For some time, I have speculated about what form the coming “plagues” that will be visited upon the whore of Babylon would take. Given the parallels with Mitzraim, or ancient Egypt before the Exodus, it seemed logical to me that YHVH might once again use ten of them.

An examination of both the Bible and the history of ancient pagan Egyptian ‘gods’ seems to show that the God of Abraham, Yitzak, and Yaakov literally humiliated those things – from the river Nile to lice, locusts, and frogs and so on – that they worshiped. It’s as if He said, over and over again, “you think THIS is a god? I’ll show you what Almighty means!”

It did not seem to be a stretch to me to recognize that the so-called “almighty dollar” — especially given that He repeatedly calls such a “dishonest weight” an abomination – would therefore be the first such false god to be destroyed by His jealousy.

So it looks like the second plague may be oil. Funny how much some of the photos reminded us of a blood-colored Nile, isn’t it?


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