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Is Porn Use good for Christians?

frederick said:
So you're suggesting seven more wives after already having two or three.... nine or ten total. Sounds like a good plan to me. ;)
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Ugh...I suppose I am unambitious. Thinking of the logistics of more than three wives and all the concomitant children is somewhat daunting.
I can see the argument for the bigger the better and the more the merrier and in some aspects I could be easily swayed by that notion. By the same token I am imagining that it would be difficult to give each wife and child the attention they deserve and need. Even if one had unlimited resources and the ability to spend literally every waking hour in just being a full time husband and father i don't know how many are reasonable. I imagine there is no one number. Likely the number is entirely based in the specific husband and wives in the marriage. Some women will need a lot of time and attention and others are very happy with their own company and projects and don't need a tonne of care. Not even looking at the aspect of children...
 
paterfamilias said:
Ugh...I suppose I am unambitious. Thinking of the logistics of more than three wives and all the concomitant children is somewhat daunting.
I can see the argument for the bigger the better and the more the merrier and in some aspects I could be easily swayed by that notion. By the same token I am imagining that it would be difficult to give each wife and child the attention they deserve and need. Even if one had unlimited resources and the ability to spend literally every waking hour in just being a full time husband and father i don't know how many are reasonable. I imagine there is no one number. Likely the number is entirely based in the specific husband and wives in the marriage. Some women will need a lot of time and attention and others are very happy with their own company and projects and don't need a tonne of care. Not even looking at the aspect of children...
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It’s not like it’s supposed to be a goal, just that it will happen in some cases.

My belief is that it isn’t about a lack of males, but a lack of adequate men. Men able to lead families.
 
paterfamilias said:
I have not consumed much about Bundy but what I have been forced to learn about him just by being a part of the culture has failed to impress me. The notion of serial killers falling into a mold of 30'ish white male with a high IQ and a bit of an autistic vibe is mostly popular entertainment fiction in my opinion. Even if Bundy legitimately had a couple standards of deviations above the mean, that doest mean a lot. You could easily score well on a test in say mathematical and spacial categories but be an absolute spastic unable to read people or learn to function within social norms because of very poor development in other areas.
Like I said, I am not knowledgeable about the guy but I always got the vibe he was impulsive, not that bright and a sloppy idiot full of ironic hubris. Given his history I am not surprised to learn that he was into violent porn.
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It's true, serial killers on average have normal if not low IQs, typically between 85-94. Many of the high IQ serial killers were impulsive and had little focus, sure they had high IQs but they couldn't do anything with them, Ted Bundy was a good example of this. Also as much as people want to romanticize him as irresistible and attractive, they seem to forget that many of his potential surviving victims refused to go with him because there was something "off about his eyes." He would fake injuries and approach women to help him, many of those women didn't find him nearly as attractive or appealing as everyone wants to make him seem. Thank God for that. It's pretty bad when you can pretend to have an injury yet women put their helpful nature aside to risk offending you because you're that dang creepy.

I also think true crime writers/followers, Police and Detectives are guilty of pulling the "high IQ" card when someone is difficult to catch. Honestly I think it's to save face, they want the killer to appear smart so they don't come across as dumb themselves for not putting what was right in front of their face together sooner. Ted Bundy was reported to the Police by Ann Rule, the famous writer who was friends with him, she worked for the very same Police station, she put a pattern together and had suspicions it was him. Ted's ex girlfriend reported him around the same time as well, she gave them all sorts of information. He also literally gave the name "Ted" to the victims he was pursuing. The Police had a sketch that looked exactly like him, to the point that his friends commented on it. He drove the same car that was identified by would be victims as well. Yet he continued to kill for years after that.
 
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paterfamilias said:
Ugh...I suppose I am unambitious. Thinking of the logistics of more than three wives and all the concomitant children is somewhat daunting.
I can see the argument for the bigger the better and the more the merrier and in some aspects I could be easily swayed by that notion. By the same token I am imagining that it would be difficult to give each wife and child the attention they deserve and need. Even if one had unlimited resources and the ability to spend literally every waking hour in just being a full time husband and father i don't know how many are reasonable. I imagine there is no one number. Likely the number is entirely based in the specific husband and wives in the marriage. Some women will need a lot of time and attention and others are very happy with their own company and projects and don't need a tonne of care. Not even looking at the aspect of children...
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I'd call that realistic lol
 
LovesDogs said:
It's true, serial killers on average have normal if not low IQs, typically between 85-94. Many of the high IQ serial killers were impulsive and had little focus, sure they had high IQs but they couldn't do anything with them, Ted Bundy was a good example of this. Also as much as people want to romanticize him as irresistible and attractive, they seem to forget that many of his potential surviving victims refused to go with him because there was something "off about his eyes." He would fake injuries and approach women to help him, many of those women didn't find him nearly as attractive or appealing as everyone wants to make him seem. Thank God for that. It's pretty bad when you can pretend to have an injury yet women put their helpful nature aside to risk offending you because you're that dang creepy.

I also think true crime writers/followers, Police and Detectives are guilty of pulling the "high IQ" card when someone is difficult to catch. Honestly I think it's to save face, they want the killer to appear smart so they don't come across as dumb themselves for not putting what was right in front of their face together sooner. Ted Bundy was reported to the Police by Ann Rule, the famous writer who was friends with him, she worked for the very same Police station, she put a pattern together and had suspicions it was him. Ted's ex girlfriend reported him around the same time as well, she gave them all sorts of information. He also literally gave the name "Ted" to the victims he was pursuing. The Police had a sketch that looked exactly like him, to the point that his friends commented on it. He drove the same car that was identified by would be victims as well. Yet he continued to kill for years after that.
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A lot of criminals have IQ's in that 85-90 ballpark, along with "short time preference".
 
Bartato said:
Right

Paterfamilias brought us all back to reality.

One wife is a lot. I can't realistically imagine having more than two or three.
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Have had two at once for several'ish years and was threatened with a third...long story, I failed at it. Won't pretend otherwise.
It did not sour me on polygamy as my failure to make that particular relationship work. I still hope to meet the right woman or conceivably even women, just hopefully we will be more permanently suited to each other.
You learn lessons for the future and you carry on your path and maybe some will like your direction and wish to walk with you.

Now to figure out which isle they stock the based right wing Betty's who want to homestead, have tonnes of crumb-crunchers and who are into ugly gorillas. Wonder if all the special edition ones what want to learn to build AR's and shoot three gun with a husband are all sold out. Hmmmm
 
LovesDogs said:
It's true, serial killers on average have normal if not low IQs, typically between 85-94. Many of the high IQ serial killers were impulsive and had little focus, sure they had high IQs but they couldn't do anything with them, Ted Bundy was a good example of this. Also as much as people want to romanticize him as irresistible and attractive, they seem to forget that many of his potential surviving victims refused to go with him because there was something "off about his eyes." He would fake injuries and approach women to help him, many of those women didn't find him nearly as attractive or appealing as everyone wants to make him seem. Thank God for that. It's pretty bad when you can pretend to have an injury yet women put their helpful nature aside to risk offending you because you're that dang creepy.

I also think true crime writers/followers, Police and Detectives are guilty of pulling the "high IQ" card when someone is difficult to catch. Honestly I think it's to save face, they want the killer to appear smart so they don't come across as dumb themselves for not putting what was right in front of their face together sooner. Ted Bundy was reported to the Police by Ann Rule, the famous writer who was friends with him, she worked for the very same Police station, she put a pattern together and had suspicions it was him. Ted's ex girlfriend reported him around the same time as well, she gave them all sorts of information. He also literally gave the name "Ted" to the victims he was pursuing. The Police had a sketch that looked exactly like him, to the point that his friends commented on it. He drove the same car that was identified by would be victims as well. Yet he continued to kill for years after that.
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I get the vibe that we...the western nations...are too "civilized for our own good on so many levels. Dollar says Ted jacked with plenty of people who did not...let's say imposed sanctions on the freak. Hell, apparently none of the victims went heeled? Seriously?
Just putting it out there in the event that Miss Right is reading this...my expectation is that all wives go armed Everywhere. Y'all and kids are too valuable to fall victim to loons or kidnappers etc.

End result is that I would be shocked if people did not know he was a rabid dog and did sweet FA about it. See too civilized for our own good.
 
Bartato said:
The fact that whoring is lumped together with homosexual male prostitution in this passage seems to indicate God's disapproval.
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Certainly - there are many passages that "indicate God's disapproval" with prostitution. It's clearly a bad thing.
But a bad thing without any punishment prescribed - which is very interesting.
 
Bartato said:
Right

Paterfamilias brought us all back to reality.

One wife is a lot. I can't realistically imagine having more than two or three.
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If husband is sort of manager, then ideal team size is about 7. So it should work with 7 wives.

I think hidden assumption many people made is working full-time job which takes you at least 50 hours (including travelling time) from home.

I would be different situation if man has family business where he with wives works or investment income which reduces his work time.
 
MemeFan said:
If husband is sort of manager, then ideal team size is about 7. So it should work with 7 wives.
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Ummm, not so much.
1). Guys are going to vary widely on their ability to manage families, some can barely manage one. Hardly any of them could handle 4 or more, in my opinion.
2). Women vary widely in temperament. Some are a full time job all by themselves. Two of them could be an absolute disaster.
 
MemeFan said:
I think hidden assumption many people made is working full-time job which takes you at least 50 hours (including travelling time) from home.
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I won’t mention that I have three wives and am away from home for months at a time as I am on the road driving truck.
It’s definitely not recommended for families with children.
 
steve said:
Ummm, not so much.
1). Guys are going to vary widely on their ability to manage families, some can barely manage one. Hardly any of them could handle 4 or more, in my opinion.
2). Women vary widely in temperament. Some are a full time job all by themselves. Two of them could be an absolute disaster.
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Think about.

80%-90% time with children can women do themself. They can even help each other. Man is needed for moral instruction.

I don't believe children are key constraint.

Trained manager should be able to handle 7 grown people in areas of motivation, organization and similar. Today basic competence is this area is going to introduction to management course.

This leaves sex. Well, ...., there are courses in this area too. And with 7 wives there will be enough opportunities to practice. Remaining part (like leadership) what makes man attractive should come naturally since man is born with instructually knowing what do.*

Key constraint is time it takes to provide for family. And that is key issue.

*Today's society shamed men, so it's often doesn't come easily. But it is there.

EDIT: Spelling
 
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MemeFan said:
Think about.

80%-90% time with children can women do themself. They can even helf each other. Man is needed for moral instruction.

I don't believe children are key constraint.

Trained manager should be able to handle 7 grown people in areas of motivation, organization and similar. Today basic competence is this area is going to introduction to management course.

This leave sex. Well, ...., there are courses in this area too. And with 7 wives there will be enough opportunities to practice. Remaining part (like leadership) what makes man attractive should come naturally since man is born with instructually knowing what do.*

Key constraint is time it takes to provide for family. And that is key issue.

*Today's society shamed men, so it's often doesn't come easily. But it is there.
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Great theory bro!
 
James Pease said:
Ya but in the workplace you don't have to worry about which woman you smiled at more haha 😂
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Teach your wives compersion.

Compersion is being happy because other people are happy. Any woman is born capable. This is happiness you feel when your children hug each other.

She should be happy because you and other wife are happy. If she feel left over allow her to invite herself to "circle of love".
 
MemeFan said:
Teach your wives compersion.

Compersion is being happy because other people are happy. Any woman is born capable. This is happiness you feel when your children hug each other.

She should be happy because you and other wife are happy. If she feel left over allow her to invite herself to "circle of love".
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I dont have this problem with mine, its a joke, but it does hold good weight.

We as men are logical creatures, women are not. A woman will have the best intentions and want to please you but the reality remains that they are the weaker vessel. Each time you add a woman you complicate the dynamics in what we call life. Is it impossible? Of course not, many men are called to it. How many men do it well? That's something you may want to find out.

Everything your saying makes absolute logical sense on paper, but women aren't predictable machines that produce the same results everytime.
 
steve said:
Great theory bro!
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I see that here people haven't thought about real physical limits. 😔😔😔😔

There are economies of scale in family.

If family has one man and one wife they have to do all workload themself. Unless she is stay at home mom he will have to help.

If couple both work what will happen if another wife joins in? Work needed for additional wife isn't that large. It is buying little extra food, washing extra clothes etc. Children need father time so new wife can't completety* replace father but she can replace him in all other workloads plus do extra work needed for herself.

So "standard family" can scale from one wife to two. Can it scale more? Third maybe, but I'm not sure. Not more due to demands on man's time. I don't believe that full-time worker can scale him family to more than two wives.

What about scion of dynasty? Well, family office can take care of earning money. Controling them takes max three hours weekly. If he is doesn't care for social/political etc causes and wives take care of children/house he will have enough time for 12 wives. He can be with each wife every three days for 4 hours.

Since man is unlikely to "outsource" marital duties ultimate scaling limit becomes having enough time for sex.

* Can somebody check spelling? I'm not sure.
 
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