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Why Not Polygamy? A Question to Progressive Churches

Asforme&myhouse said:
He isn’t saying that we will receive new doctrine by the Holy Spirit.
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Eph 3:3
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; †(as I wrote afore in few words,
Whereby,† when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
 
Sean Miller said:
Goodness me you have to much time on your hands to tear down and add/twist to what I've said, kinda sounds like your doing the very thing your speaking against. You seem to be overreading and twisting my words. In brief, no, I never "forced" anyone to believe or accept anything. It seems like I'm not talking to a man here, but a woman in how your reactions are. Do you have some heavy guilt in this matter to be so defensive about it? That you ague something so minor.

In that regard, lots of things are wrong that are not sins, sir. I am sure you wouldn't be happy about your wife going and having intimate relations with another woman without your knowledge, because she wants her more than you. That would be wrong, biblically a sin? Probably not.

No different than its wrong to shoot paintballs at my neighbors house because it's fun, wrong, yes, not a sin. Don't twist my words or imply I am saying something wrong when I am not.

If you want to know what the history is about the modern day bible I highly recommended you read a book on it, called The Formation of the New Testament. The answer your looking for is addressed in this history book.
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Please edit your post. Personal attacks are not appreciated or allowed. Thanks
 
Verifyveritas76 said:
Eph 3:3
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; †(as I wrote afore in few words,
Whereby,† when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
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Yes exactly, and it’s written down for us. Are you saying the Holy Spirit is giving new revelation today? And if so, to whom is it being revealed, and what is it?
 
Sean Miller said:
Goodness me you have to much time on your hands to tear down and add/twist to what I've said, kinda sounds like your doing the very thing your speaking against. You seem to be overreading and twisting my words. In brief, no, I never "forced" anyone to believe or accept anything. It seems like I'm not talking to a man here, but a woman in how your reactions are. Do you have some heavy guilt in this matter to be so defensive about it? That you ague something so minor.

In that regard, lots of things are wrong that are not sins, sir. I am sure you wouldn't be happy about your wife going and having intimate relations with another woman without your knowledge, because she wants her more than you. That would be wrong, biblically a sin? Probably not.

No different than its wrong to shoot paintballs at my neighbors house because it's fun, wrong, yes, not a sin. Don't twist my words or imply I am saying something wrong when I am not.

If you want to know what the history is about the modern day bible I highly recommended you read a book on it, called The Formation of the New Testament. The answer your looking for is addressed in this history book.
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Either you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying or I’m being totally unclear, if it’s the latter, I apologize.
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
Yes exactly, and it’s written down for us. Are you saying the Holy Spirit is giving new revelation today? And if so, to whom is it being revealed, and what is it?
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And scripture was already written down then. I have no idea if the Spirit is giving new revelation today, but saying thats how Paul said it was done then. I’d assume it would be done the same way today as thats the way its always been done.
 
Verifyveritas76 said:
And scripture was already written down then. I have no idea if the Spirit is giving new revelation today, but saying thats how Paul said it was done then. I’d assume it would be done the same way today as thats the way its always been done.
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I guess for me that would raise the question of, what then is the authenticator that this new information/revelation needs to be added to what we already have as Scripture?
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
I guess for me that would raise the question of, what then is the authenticator that this new information/revelation needs to be added to what we already have as Scripture?
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Scripture is constantly written in those lives of who follow by the spirit. Non of the NT was written or even published when Jesus said those things about the spirit. To me it just seems logical. In fact there are many other letters deemed scripture or spirit lead as with Paul and Peter but they were not put in the book. It really might open your eyes reading the history book, The Formation of the New Testament. It was written in late 1800"s published in 1907.
 
Sean Miller said:
Lead by the spirit and to submit to it despite our fleshly desires.
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How does one know that a spirit one is being led by, and submitting to; is of God?
What is a fleshly desire? Is it not that which is evil? How do we learn what is evil?

https://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?p=17966697#post17966697
This man speaks about his conscience, saying..
"Conscience is silent wordless moral indications of what is right and wrong in real time. It is neither clever deceitful thought nor transient irrational emotion. The Moral Light of Conscience is how God guides my path through life."
...and it tells him that polygyny is immoral.
 
Sean Miller said:
This is a good point. I think it's simply a spirt lead intuition. Yes God or Christ did not speak against it in the word, but why would it be okay for a woman but not a man?
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Without commenting on the larger issue, the idea that if something that applies to one sex in the Bible should automatically apply to the other sex, even though it is not mentioned is a major error and a big reason for the modern confusion on gender roles.

Just because we do not know the reasons (if indeed we do not) is not reason enough to make the extrapolation. Better to just assume that the writer knew what they were writting and if they had meant it to apply to both sexes they would have said so.
 
Sean Miller said:
My apologies not nice, I removed it. Speach sensorship, I forgot. Kind of like the YouTube channels run by Christians that offend someone so they remove their videos.
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Obviously speech is allowed. Polite speech. This response does not recommend you any more than the other one.
 
steve said:
@Sean Miller
Why do you keep bringing a knife to a friendly wrestling match?
This is not a site for brawling.
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"keep bringing". I think I'm pretty mild, I've seen many of you go at it and get posts removed much worse than what I've said. It's all good though. I know it's one thing to say what you belive but another to actually put it in action.

Sad really, most on here are not even living the life they go on talking about (most talking about Poly as if they know how or what it's like in action) , let alone even have more than one wife. Those who do, do it in hiding... Its time consuming being a husband with 4 wives, and due to that I don't have much time for bull and silly drama ripping apart what each other says, it is pointless. Aren't we not to argue anyway? I don't like getting pulled into the drama either, trying to explain things I have already explained, again, of which I have worded very carefully. Non of us are perfect, but the aditides and sensorship on here is just pushing more people away. We all could do better, and should. Take care.
 
@Sean Miller
You don’t understand us.
This is not a site that is only about poly. The name is Biblical Families for a reason. We support, and are about, families living in a Biblical way. Which includes having more than one wife but goes way beyond that aspect. Quite frankly, a family can have the plural wives merit badge and still fail dreadfully at living a Biblical lifestyle.
As you pointed out, posts have been pulled for unsportsmanlike conduct. Why on earth would that justify your snarkicity?
If you don’t have time to grapple in a gentlemanly way, take it to a cage match down the road. More people avoid the site because of the fighting than avoid it over censorship.
Nobody is trying to run you off, we want widely varied perspectives to flavor the stew. All that we ask is that you keep a civil tongue in your fingers as you type your responses.

As far as whether a family does it in secret, who made you the judge over whether that is best for their situation?
 
steve said:
Quite frankly, a family can have the plural wives merit badge and still fail dreadfully at living a Biblical lifestyle.
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When did y'all start getting Merit badges?
 
Kevin said:
When did y'all start getting Merit badges?
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That’s just how some people act, like they are better than others because of their “accomplishment”.
If I ever get that way, please bitchslap the snot out of me.
 
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