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What do you consider modesty on a woman? What makes a woman appear NOT modest?

It has been interesting to observe how people react to @Foxlily and her dress. She wears dresses and skirts, more or less contemporary styled yet modest. So she doesn't stick out like an anachronism, yet she is still different, analogous to the man who always dresses a step better than his office colleges and so is regarded as more professional. Men tend to treat her like a lady and a little more traditionally. And that rare Christian of a different sort can tell from her manner of dress and conversation (spirit?) that she is a follower of Christ as well.
 
Our daughter likes classy older styles....and we like to see them on her too!
Timeless and feminine, not skanky or suggestive.
She is a great example for her younger sisters!
 
I've been thinking about this and had the thought that modesty is not about how you dress but about not attracting undue attention. You can be dressed head to toe in a bag like some religions do and then do things that attract attention. Or you can dress like the FLDS women in their weird dresses and attract attention. Neither of those things are really modesty.

I belong to my husband and for me modesty means that there's a side of me that only he gets to see. That doesn't mean I have to dress like a nun when I go to Wal Mart to prove how religious I am. It also doesn't mean I have to make myself unattractive or plain.

Just on my mind on a late night.
Exactly. I've come to learn that is more of an "attitude" and demeanor more than a dress style. Theres a middle ground I'm trying to walk. Based on culture, common sense, and above all things what my husband says I can and can't wear.
 
All of the responses are helpful and insightful.

Sometimes it seems that asking what is modesty is a lot like asking what is sin amongst those who are not Torah observant. Meaning that without the Torah, sin is just what each individual feels in their own heart. Like how at the very end of the book of Judges, it says "every man did what was right in his own eyes." (sorry if not exact- going from memory) It seems like this is what we also do with modesty in everyone doing what is right in their own eyes. Without the law, sin can be drinking, dancing, smoking, polygamy, eating meat, and many other things different denominations try to impose on people that can't be backed up by scripture. But- when you turn to the Torah, you find exactly what sin is. Because sin is the transgression of the law. So, to modesty, I guess I'm wondering for women's sake, how do we find the concrete agreeable answer to what is modesty? On judgment day, what one woman is condemned for will another receive a pass on because it was her cultural norm? If nudity is a cultural norm does that make it right? ( As in tribal customs, those who hear the Gospel and convert)- should they stick to their nudity as a cultural norm in their modesty commanded by scripture? For women who really want to be modest, it seems very difficult because there is no line drawn in the sand.

In one church setting you are modest, in the next they are condemning you for your makeup, or choice of hairstyle, or pants, or dress length. and heal size... it goes on and on. If you say my husband approves of this they may snear and still mark you as one dressed as a harlot. It's very hard to concretely find the 'IMAGE' of a "Christian" woman because it changes across the board. Take Muslims for example, you can spot them by dress. Yes, they have different levels of coverage within their faith but overall, those who wear hijab states to all what they are. Sometimes in public, when I vail, people think I am Muslim. Anyways, this is getting long, but any answers to this is helpful. I'm been studying modesty for a while and seem to go in circles as there is no concrete answers and I feel like I'm on the spinning wheel like how I felt before I became Torah observant and used to ask, "What is sin?" Now, because of the law I know what sin is. But, in modesty, I do not....
This may not be about dressing modestly which I do do outside our home. Rather, I have a question about dressing inside the home alone with my husband.. he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings! That feels out of my comfort zone, should I get past that and do it anyway? Is this part of being submissive, dressing like this? I have tried many times but I just feel silly, if it means that much to him should I be finding a way to get beyond what feels comfortable to me?
 
This may not be about dressing modestly which I do do outside our home. Rather, I have a question about dressing inside the home alone with my husband.. he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings! That feels out of my comfort zone, should I get past that and do it anyway? Is this part of being submissive, dressing like this? I have tried many times but I just feel silly, if it means that much to him should I be finding a way to get beyond what feels comfortable to me?

I would ask if seeing you dressed that way makes him smile and seems to change the trajectory of his day if work has been unpleasant.

I will not bore the group with what I like. (As the class clown on the site, just assume it is a pirate costume or in a ballet tutu with an army helmet or something equally ludicrous) That said, I have been surprised on occasion with intent if that makes sense. Those occasions are bright spots in my memory still.

A man very much appreciate occasionally feeling attractive and valued beyond the level of provider and partner. Broad strokes statement but we are in large part used to being taken from granted and having a little extra consideration taken to make us feel nice should not be a heavy burden.
If those clothes make your man smile or feel nice then I would consider trying to see yourself through his smiling eyes and embrace them.
Especially if you know his stress level is high. Y'all can wield a near magical ability to lower our stress levels and make our external problems seem vastly smaller if you choose to.

My advice is to revel in how he sees you in those clothes and how you effect him with those small trappings.
 
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It occurs to me that only half of the question has been addressed much.

What makes a woman appear immodest?

To my mind it is not just clothing which highlights a woman sexually...most common though people seem to have...but also to my mind it is the peacock narcissistic displays as well.

When one has the over the top face and nail paint or the peculiar hair colours which sometimes are intended as peacock'esque signaling and other times seemingly poison signaling. Essentially adopting clothing or accoutrement that say Look At Me.
 
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This may not be about dressing modestly which I do do outside our home. Rather, I have a question about dressing inside the home alone with my husband.. he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings! That feels out of my comfort zone, should I get past that and do it anyway? Is this part of being submissive, dressing like this? I have tried many times but I just feel silly, if it means that much to him should I be finding a way to get beyond what feels comfortable to me?
Because you think that being dressed exciting for husband is only for outdoor activities where you can both show others people what great catch have you get.

Make your husband happy. Don't overfeel.
 
This may not be about dressing modestly which I do do outside our home. Rather, I have a question about dressing inside the home alone with my husband.. he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings! That feels out of my comfort zone, should I get past that and do it anyway? Is this part of being submissive, dressing like this? I have tried many times but I just feel silly, if it means that much to him should I be finding a way to get beyond what feels comfortable to me?
Getting out of your comfort zone can be a very good thing!
 
I try to keep it simple in my home. The husband has authority over his wife/wives therefore, how I want my wives to dress, including when we are alone in the house, is up to me. And they abide by my requests.
Same for me. They’re allowed to wear pretty much anything in the home (provided we have no guests). I’m the only one seeing my wives. Outside of the home I’m more strict. For example, while wearing shorts, I prefer them to be longer and the shirts to not be excessively tight as to show every curve. Other men are going to look, because that’s what they do, but why make it easy on them? They’re my possessions.
 
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Because you think that being dressed exciting for husband is only for outdoor activities where you can both show others people what great catch have you get.

Make your husband happy. Don't overfeel.
Thank you so much, I can totally relate. That helps me more than you know! You all are such a great bunch of people, makes me wish that I could be young again and start all over again! Don't worry, actually I have an awesome husband and wouldn't trade him for the world. Has been 3 years now since I found out that men are supposed to be the head of the woman like Christ is the head of the church, what a revelation! I have been a terrible shrew, now, I'm at least half tame.
 
he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings!
Do as he asks… and sometimes be a bit more bold! Greet him at the door with nothing but stockings on!
 
This may not be about dressing modestly which I do do outside our home. Rather, I have a question about dressing inside the home alone with my husband.. he has told me that you would like it if I would sometimes greet him at the door, when he comes in from work, with me wearing a short skirt and stockings! That feels out of my comfort zone, should I get past that and do it anyway? Is this part of being submissive, dressing like this? I have tried many times but I just feel silly, if it means that much to him should I be finding a way to get beyond what feels comfortable to me?

I've long enjoyed wearing a sundress in the summer time. Which is arguably modest.

Here's what my husband knew is that when I would wear a sundress for him it was the only thing I was wearing. It was modest for anyone who happened to come by the ranch but in my husband's eyes it was sexier than wearing a fancy negligee. ;)
 
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