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We both know real truth is way more complex than simple black-white situation.

The real truth as is demonstrated by their recent history is that Russia is an aggressor state that comes up with all sorts of justifications for their aggression when in fact the bastards just want to build an empire.

Right now I think they're about to run into a wall named Donald Trump.

Trump told Zelensky and Putin to end the fighting and talk. Zelensky agreed to Trump's proposed thirty day truce and Putin not only refused it he intensified the attacks.

Three months ago Trump was solidly in Russia's corner and now Putin has alienated him. Smooth move from that genius in Moscow.
 
@MeganC, we are not having that debate on this forum. @MemeFan was simply expressing sorrow at how easily we can be torn apart by such things. Points made, now drop it, both of you. If you must discuss it do so privately.
 
@MeganC, we are not having that debate on this forum. @MemeFan was simply expressing sorrow at how easily we can be torn apart by such things. Points made, now drop it, both of you. If you must discuss it do so privately.
Ahhh Man!!!! My popcorn just finished popping. Now what am I going to watch?!? :-)
 
Ahhh Man!!!! My popcorn just finished popping. Now what am I going to watch?!? :-)
Nada
Samuel just pulled the plug.

Edit: I will say that the whole world is watching to see if there will be fireworks at a certain parade.
But we won’t argue about it.
 
@MeganC, we are not having that debate on this forum. @MemeFan was simply expressing sorrow at how easily we can be torn apart by such things. Points made, now drop it, both of you. If you must discuss it do so privately.

So MemeFan's post was just fine it's my reply that you have a problem with. :rolleyes:

Your post effectively endorses the Daily Mail article by pro-Russian propagandist Peter Hitchens. That rates another :rolleyes:

If you want to moderate discussions then do so. If you want to jump in, snipe for one side, and then shut down the discussion so you can have the last word then expect me to call you out on that.
 
Did you have the center downdraft JennAire? Ours draws off a lot of heat and flame so it is hard to regulate for simmering. Dont like it.

It was electric. The convection fan was at the back.
 
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