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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

MeganC said:
Trump made a big noise about ending the Russian war to conquer Ukraine on his first day in office. Now he got Ukraine to agree to a 30 day ceasefire and Russia has soundly rejected the idea.

Now what?
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Thousands more poor pitiful conscripts (Ukrainian and Russian) die because of the bad decisions of their overlords.

The Russian military continues to destroy Ukraine.

Trump is putting in the effort. Zelensky, globohomo and Putin 🤷
 
MeganC said:
Trump made a big noise about ending the Russian war to conquer Ukraine on his first day in office. Now he got Ukraine to agree to a 30 day ceasefire and Russia has soundly rejected the idea.

Now what?
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Russia sees that the li'l piano player now knows who's boss.

That will help going forward.
 
MemeFan said:
What is source for refusal?

Btw, West has habit of asking for ceasefire and then using time to rearm it's proxies.

No way Russians have high confidence in cease fire.
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All Nations employ that tactic....
 
It’s funny that no one is talking about a spring offensive.
It’s time to end the war, not hold a ceasefire imo.
 
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MemeFan said:
Do you want diplomats having peace negotiations while soldiers are shooting?
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What?
They can’t talk if guns are firing?
 
MeganC said:
Trump made a big noise about ending the Russian war to conquer Ukraine on his first day in office. Now he got Ukraine to agree to a 30 day ceasefire and Russia has soundly rejected the idea.

Now what?
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I predict that now that Ukraine is on side and Europe has admitted their own impotence that much more pressure will start being brought to bear against Russia.

I am convinced that Trump refused to get into a 4 way bum fight and focused first on getting his allies on the same page before they all pivot together to deal with Russia.

Expect Putin to be given some carrots, most likely regional prestige oriented more towards the east and south. Also expect much more tactical assistance for Ukraine. I would expect some suspiciously highly accurate and well timed explosions on Russian territory if the ceasefire isn’t accepted soon.
 
The Revolting Man said:
I predict that now that Ukraine is on side and Europe has admitted their own impotence that much more pressure will start being brought to bear against Russia.

I am convinced that Trump refused to get into a 4 way bum fight and focused first on getting his allies on the same page before they all pivot together to deal with Russia.

Expect Putin to be given some carrots, most likely regional prestige oriented more towards the east and south. Also expect much more tactical assistance for Ukraine. I would expect some suspiciously highly accurate and well timed explosions on Russian territory if the ceasefire isn’t accepted soon.
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I predict Putin and Trump will together gangbang poor EU.

There is no carrot Trump can give to Putin which is worthy of Ukraine.
 
The Revolting Man said:
Yeah but Putin has proven that he can’t get Ukraine so he’ll at least be willing to listen to an offer.
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The current news cycle indicates the narrative is flipping. Trump and Rubio are changing their tune and are now starting to talk about what comes after Russia's rejection of the ceasefire.

Also of note is some chatter about Ukraine rejoining the nuclear club. Seems they're sitting on seven tons of weapons grade plutonium and that's enough to build a couple hundred ~15kt nukes.
 
MeganC said:
The current news cycle indicates the narrative is flipping. Trump and Rubio are changing their tune and are now starting to talk about what comes after Russia's rejection of the ceasefire.

Also of note is some chatter about Ukraine rejoining the nuclear club. Seems they're sitting on seven tons of weapons grade plutonium and that's enough to build a couple hundred ~15kt nukes.
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Negotiations are always ugly.
 
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