Re: How Important is it for a Family Head to be in Submissio
13:7 Remember your leaders, who spoke God’s message to you; reflect on the outcome of their lives and imitate their faith
13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls and will give an account for their work. Let them do this with joy and not with complaints, for this would be no advantage for you.
Please brothers, stop this madness. The man is simply asking how to practically apply this scripture I have just posted above in light of our current understanding. After all, we are Christians and this does apply to us. Why one would be appalled at the idea when scripture itself teaches this I do not know. I do not find it offensive for some one to ask about the practical application of scripture at all. We must treat all in the scriptures and not pick and choose. If any should know this, it should be us. Please quit reading more into post than what is there. Do not get caught up in the lynch mob mentality over a legit question. We all agree concerning the truth of marriage, we all understand the roles and functions of husband and wife/wives. What is so terrible about finding where this passage and many others fit in light of this? There is a beautiful harmony in scripture and this command does not pose a threat to the headship of a husband neither does his question. If you do not believe in the concept of the church, or of elders then simply state that. No need to personally attack a man. I firmly believe in the church (Gods called out people) and I believe God does want Elders to be appointed, to deny this I would have to remove almost every book in the New Testament and the Old as well. So, I see nothing offensive about trying to understand how it all fits together. Last thing, I have spent 8 yrs and many thousands of dollars on education not to be superior but to serve better. When I was a child my mother was involved in a cult. We were slaves and were beat with leather straps if we weren’t obedient; I still have scars on me to this day at 31 yrs old from this. I detested God for this but through his grace I was saved. When I was called to ministry I decided I wanted to be educated so I wasn’t ever at the mercy of a man to tell me what the bible said. So, I spent 8 yrs and a lot of money so that the people I minister to are not at the arbitrary dictates of men’s passions and preferences concerning the scripture. It is out of humbleness and service that I pursued education not pride. As I see this man being attacked I wonder could his motive be similar. I have been called a self proclaimed scholar on here but I have my degree to prove it and I bare the scars to prove my motive. I would suggest you talk to a man and get to know him before you accuse him of pride. So, I am going to post my real name with the title I worked hard for in order to best serve the people. I write this with tears flowing from my eyes!
Dr. Corey
13:7 Remember your leaders, who spoke God’s message to you; reflect on the outcome of their lives and imitate their faith
13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls and will give an account for their work. Let them do this with joy and not with complaints, for this would be no advantage for you.
Please brothers, stop this madness. The man is simply asking how to practically apply this scripture I have just posted above in light of our current understanding. After all, we are Christians and this does apply to us. Why one would be appalled at the idea when scripture itself teaches this I do not know. I do not find it offensive for some one to ask about the practical application of scripture at all. We must treat all in the scriptures and not pick and choose. If any should know this, it should be us. Please quit reading more into post than what is there. Do not get caught up in the lynch mob mentality over a legit question. We all agree concerning the truth of marriage, we all understand the roles and functions of husband and wife/wives. What is so terrible about finding where this passage and many others fit in light of this? There is a beautiful harmony in scripture and this command does not pose a threat to the headship of a husband neither does his question. If you do not believe in the concept of the church, or of elders then simply state that. No need to personally attack a man. I firmly believe in the church (Gods called out people) and I believe God does want Elders to be appointed, to deny this I would have to remove almost every book in the New Testament and the Old as well. So, I see nothing offensive about trying to understand how it all fits together. Last thing, I have spent 8 yrs and many thousands of dollars on education not to be superior but to serve better. When I was a child my mother was involved in a cult. We were slaves and were beat with leather straps if we weren’t obedient; I still have scars on me to this day at 31 yrs old from this. I detested God for this but through his grace I was saved. When I was called to ministry I decided I wanted to be educated so I wasn’t ever at the mercy of a man to tell me what the bible said. So, I spent 8 yrs and a lot of money so that the people I minister to are not at the arbitrary dictates of men’s passions and preferences concerning the scripture. It is out of humbleness and service that I pursued education not pride. As I see this man being attacked I wonder could his motive be similar. I have been called a self proclaimed scholar on here but I have my degree to prove it and I bare the scars to prove my motive. I would suggest you talk to a man and get to know him before you accuse him of pride. So, I am going to post my real name with the title I worked hard for in order to best serve the people. I write this with tears flowing from my eyes!
Dr. Corey
