How do you find and support politicians who are for biblical polygyny (but opposed to man with man sex and marriage) in the next election cycle?
By the way I do not want to run for office.
By the way I do not want to run for office.
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How do you find and support politicians who are for polygyny
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T-C's Rebeka
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Since it is technically illegal in many states and does not get covered by the PC umbrella, I doubt any politician will openly admit to being in support of it. Probably the only way to find out is to notice which ones are not vocal against PM.
I do know of one politician that is practicing, but he is local and does not bring attention to it. It the "thing" we all know but nobody will call him on it. They just make jokes about it. :roll: (Not going to out him and his family of the PM closet.)
Of course in my local area, finding someone who is polygynist is not that hard. Finding one that is christian and PM, MUCH more difficult.
Since it is technically illegal in many states and does not get covered by the PC umbrella, I doubt any politician will openly admit to being in support of it. Probably the only way to find out is to notice which ones are not vocal against PM.
I do know of one politician that is practicing, but he is local and does not bring attention to it. It the "thing" we all know but nobody will call him on it. They just make jokes about it. :roll: (Not going to out him and his family of the PM closet.)
Of course in my local area, finding someone who is polygynist is not that hard. Finding one that is christian and PM, MUCH more difficult.
macike
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Get one that is for PM and then get that person very drunk and talk to them. Then maybe they might tell you.
It would be the kiss of death.
The one exception is maybe Barney Frank (or other such gay politician), but what moral issue would bother him?
DiscussingTheTopic said:
Get one that is for PM and then get that person very drunk and talk to them. Then maybe they might tell you.
It would be the kiss of death.
The one exception is maybe Barney Frank (or other such gay politician), but what moral issue would bother him?
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Maybe another possible answer is to find a Christian who believes in Biblical Marriage and turn him into a leader. (I don't think Politician is a good word for what we want.)
SweetLissa
Maybe another possible answer is to find a Christian who believes in Biblical Marriage and turn him into a leader. (I don't think Politician is a good word for what we want.)
SweetLissa
macike
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
It may not be the good word we would want . . . but it is an accurate word. Last thing that is needed is another Pat Robertson, someone who complains but cannot effect long term political change.
While I would want a person who would be in favor of PM and other such things. The problem is could such a person get elected? Maybe on the state level. I am planning on running for State Senate in four years when our local guy is term limited out. Of course I live in state, South Dakota, where we do not have the hard anti-PM laws.
sweetlissa said:
It may not be the good word we would want . . . but it is an accurate word. Last thing that is needed is another Pat Robertson, someone who complains but cannot effect long term political change.
While I would want a person who would be in favor of PM and other such things. The problem is could such a person get elected? Maybe on the state level. I am planning on running for State Senate in four years when our local guy is term limited out. Of course I live in state, South Dakota, where we do not have the hard anti-PM laws.
redfox
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
I think politically speaking it would be easier for a person to run on anti-marriage laws in general (more support from the gay community, which really would be helpful in this situation), than it would be for someone to run on a pro-poly platform.
I think politically speaking it would be easier for a person to run on anti-marriage laws in general (more support from the gay community, which really would be helpful in this situation), than it would be for someone to run on a pro-poly platform.
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Problem is man with man sex is very very bad.
I do not think there should be marriage certificates, because married people should not get free money on tax forms just for being married, people should not have to pay income taxes, property taxes and most other taxes at all
redfox said:
Problem is man with man sex is very very bad.
I do not think there should be marriage certificates, because married people should not get free money on tax forms just for being married, people should not have to pay income taxes, property taxes and most other taxes at all
redfox
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Yes it's bad, but the problem is that people will make their own choices regardless of the law. Having any laws that affect marriage hurts us and others. I'm just saying that whether you support that community or not, their support in some ways would make a reasonable difference. One doesn't have to condone what they're doing to proclaim freedom of marriage.
Yes it's bad, but the problem is that people will make their own choices regardless of the law. Having any laws that affect marriage hurts us and others. I'm just saying that whether you support that community or not, their support in some ways would make a reasonable difference. One doesn't have to condone what they're doing to proclaim freedom of marriage.
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
If we get the government out of marriage, then it isn't an issue. We don't care if the government recognizes marriage. Does God recognize a marriage between two men or two women? NO. So they can do whatever they want to. They always have. We get the government out of our bedrooms and we can follow God. The other people can follow whatever they want to follow.
SweetLissa
If we get the government out of marriage, then it isn't an issue. We don't care if the government recognizes marriage. Does God recognize a marriage between two men or two women? NO. So they can do whatever they want to. They always have. We get the government out of our bedrooms and we can follow God. The other people can follow whatever they want to follow.
SweetLissa
libertarianwhacko
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Perhaps what is needed is the formation of a new political party, the "Women's International Revolutionary Liberty Party" so something like that which communicates that Poly is FOR women and not AGAINST women. It might attract attention. I majored in art, and absorbed the idea that the first duty of the artist is to attract attention.
Perhaps what is needed is the formation of a new political party, the "Women's International Revolutionary Liberty Party" so something like that which communicates that Poly is FOR women and not AGAINST women. It might attract attention. I majored in art, and absorbed the idea that the first duty of the artist is to attract attention.
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Good idea but what do we do when women, say polyandry is for woman, and since we are for polygyny but not polyandry we are "anti-woman"
libertarianwhacko said:
Good idea but what do we do when women, say polyandry is for woman, and since we are for polygyny but not polyandry we are "anti-woman"
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Maybe we should work on abandoning marriage certificates and outlawing homosexuality as two separate issues.
We can convince Christians that abandoning marriage certificates
1. maintains marriage while eliminating paper divorces
2. eliminates tax deductions and eliminates free insurance medical money for man with man obamanations
Also maybe we can convince Christians to illegalize man with man Obamanations as a separate issue unrelated to marriage laws.
Both can be supported by Christians and the mention of Polygyny can be silent but planned
Maybe we should work on abandoning marriage certificates and outlawing homosexuality as two separate issues.
We can convince Christians that abandoning marriage certificates
1. maintains marriage while eliminating paper divorces
2. eliminates tax deductions and eliminates free insurance medical money for man with man obamanations
Also maybe we can convince Christians to illegalize man with man Obamanations as a separate issue unrelated to marriage laws.
Both can be supported by Christians and the mention of Polygyny can be silent but planned
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Perhaps because it is? If you accept that woman have free choice to be Polygynous you have to accept that women have the free choice not to be also, otherwise it is a spurious ticket to campagin on.
Perhaps it may be best to not have a single issue party, they don't actually ever get anywhere and is too liable to attract extremists and wackjobs.
DiscussingTheTopic said:
Perhaps because it is? If you accept that woman have free choice to be Polygynous you have to accept that women have the free choice not to be also, otherwise it is a spurious ticket to campagin on.
Perhaps it may be best to not have a single issue party, they don't actually ever get anywhere and is too liable to attract extremists and wackjobs.
Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
Wow, Obama created gay sex!!!! Who would have thunk it!!!!!
You would be sussed out in two minutes flat and you would fail....you are right, you are not a natural politician.
You would embarrass most Christians and isolate all moderates including moderate Christians who are, the biggest anti-polygamists going!
Poly (of any variety) needs liberals and moderates to get any laws passed, you think you are going to do that by a policy of homophobia? Don't you think that moderates will wonder why you would want to do away with marriage laws........but oppress gay relationships?
DiscussingTheTopic said:
Wow, Obama created gay sex!!!! Who would have thunk it!!!!!
You would be sussed out in two minutes flat and you would fail....you are right, you are not a natural politician.
You would embarrass most Christians and isolate all moderates including moderate Christians who are, the biggest anti-polygamists going!
Poly (of any variety) needs liberals and moderates to get any laws passed, you think you are going to do that by a policy of homophobia? Don't you think that moderates will wonder why you would want to do away with marriage laws........but oppress gay relationships?
redfox
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Re: How do you find and support politicians who are for poly
I have been pushing anti-marriage certificate issues with Christians in general. Few are open to the idea, but I'm getting there.
I have been pushing the same with gay friends who want to push for their "rights". When I explain that fighting against getting "permission" i.e. a "license" to marry would give them far more freedom than getting the law changed in their favor, they are far more interested in what I have to say.
Christians, unfortunately, think that by restricting marriage to certain groups of people protects them somehow. What they don't realize is that it also opens the door for government to create more laws in regards to marriage, and eventually child bearing instead of protecting it.
I have been pushing anti-marriage certificate issues with Christians in general. Few are open to the idea, but I'm getting there.
I have been pushing the same with gay friends who want to push for their "rights". When I explain that fighting against getting "permission" i.e. a "license" to marry would give them far more freedom than getting the law changed in their favor, they are far more interested in what I have to say.
Christians, unfortunately, think that by restricting marriage to certain groups of people protects them somehow. What they don't realize is that it also opens the door for government to create more laws in regards to marriage, and eventually child bearing instead of protecting it.