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Challenging the challengers.

frederick

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It's been on my mind for a while that we sometimes find ourselves on the back foot trying to defend the truth of polygyny. People will ask questions, appealing to emotion, tradition, and misguided understandings of the Bible in an effort to prove their point that polygyny is sinful. Sometimes those asking the questions seem to come across as accusative rather than with a genuine desire to engage in civil discussion. So, I've been wondering if there might be ways to confront the askers and get them to think rather than just addressing the issue they raise(?)

A situation came up recently while I was reading the Bible to the maids. One asked about the teaching of the RCC saying polygyny is a sin. Rather than get into a long and drawn-out answer, I simply asked, "You tell me; was Jesus lying or was Paul teaching error?" This simple question seemed to stop them in their tracks, so I'm wondering if anyone else has used this approach? The way the maid asked the question seemed to be genuine, but my answer was obviously different from what was expected and left a stunned silence.

I let the silence linger until there was perhaps a little embarrassment, and then read Matthew 8:11 emphasizing Jesus' words that Abraham and Jacob would be in the kingdom of heaven. I then read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and emphasized that fornicators and adulterers would not be in the kingdom. I asked, "Did Abraham and Jacob have more than one wife?" "Yes" was the immediate reply. "And will they be in God's kingdom?" "Yes" again. "So, having more than one wife cannot be fornication or adultery, can it?" "No!" We concluded the discussion agreeing the RCC cannot be correct in what is taught regarding a man having more than one wife.

I'm interested to know if anyone has had situations like this? Have you been able to challenge a person with similar pointed questions? I look forward to feedback.
 
I can't comment on the biblical aspects naturally but I rarely find myself on the backfoot as it were.

Likely different types of conversations as I generally get neutral responses from I couldn't do that to a huh that is different to mild curiosity.
The infrequent times I do get some degree of hostility or negativity, I tend to just laugh and ask them about how much they push back on gay marriage, institutional tranny prancing or maladaptive psychopaths attempting to groom children, activitie explicit efforts to destroy families and crush birthrates etc etc bloody etc.
But you have a problem with guys who are wanting to double down on marriage, family and commitment!?! Do you have a minder you escaped from or some kind of doctor's note you are supposed to show adults to explain your malfunctioning brain?

But then I don't imagine most are as comfortable with casual bullying over terrible opinions. I can say that while not everyone's style, it does work
 
I am actually surprised that more non religious people are not open to the idea. I mean they accept the idea of many sex partners (simultaneous in fact) but an actual marriage is somehow a step to far.

The prominent narrative is the opposite direction.

The cultural drum beat for generations now has been antinatalism, hedonism, anti matrimony and very much anti commitment.

The people who (to my mind at least) are interested in polygyny are very much rejecting that push and doubling down on marriage, commitment, family, children, parenting and living for others before yourself.
There is also the aspect of pulp culture which tells us that woman should have innumerable partners and that she will be happier for it.
So if there is to be a marriage wherein a husband has more than one wife (these critics are only apparently interested in the additional sex partner aspect) then surely the wife should have her string of bucks lined up to service her.

*Do pardon me...there is an urgent bucket I need to be sick into.

Plyg-life is the last taboo.
All other taboos must be flouted and the degenerates wish to be celebrated for whatever nauseating activities they get up to as well as being given access to your children. Those people who wish a large family and having double sized marriage at the same original price or MarriageExtra™, well...those people are in a cult and a threat.
Seemingly
 
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