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I think the fact that he's writing to Timothy, instructing him regarding how to set up an established congregation should be considered into the context. We typically read chapters as if they have relevance, when it was never designed that way...

Welcome! I grew up Baptist and got tampered with also. I like to refer to myself as a Messicostal nowadays because while it is true that I am partially Messianic and partly Pentecostal, I also enjoy the humor inherent in the title.

Hey glad to have found this site. I'm a 32 y/o male, who's very much into Biblical patriarchy. I am a teacher of scripture, a husband to one wife, and have 2 children. I've studied scripture intently for the past 5 or 6 years now, but have been a...

Alright, let’s not do this. We all know how it ends. Let me try and state both sides and let’s leave it there: This debate hinges on whether or not a father has the right to choose his daughter’s husband. The Bible itself never directly makes...

And I'm telling you father can't refuse since only husband can issue valid divorce. I'm willing to bet translation is something like "father utterly refusing" which means father isn't someone normal. Man who prefers seduction over asking father...

What does Numbers 30 have to do with establishing a marriage? The same concept applies to a married woman so clearly this has nothing to do with forming one flesh. Numbers 30 controls what it claims to control, oaths made to God; nothing more...

So what if man has to pay. This doesn't prove marriage didn't exist or has stopped existing. There is no "undo" for sex. And btw, you should read Jesus commentary on divorce. One flesh shouldn't be broken. And since one flesh is sex, man and...

Don't confuse regular market processes with state intervention. They any stuff becomes more expansive supply will naturally fall in order to balance with lower demand. It would look like covid situation if states try to use situation in order...

@Off-Grid Artist I must apologize if you attempted to get on the Men's chat the other night. I wasn't able to get on until after 8PM, and I didn't get around notifying @nathan until earlier that day that I wouldn't be able to do so. We have...

Welcome!

Hey glad to have found this site. I'm a 32 y/o male, who's very much into Biblical patriarchy. I am a teacher of scripture, a husband to one wife, and have 2 children. I've studied scripture intently for the past 5 or 6 years now, but have been a...

Good Sabbath, and welcome.

Hey glad to have found this site. I'm a 32 y/o male, who's very much into Biblical patriarchy. I am a teacher of scripture, a husband to one wife, and have 2 children. I've studied scripture intently for the past 5 or 6 years now, but have been a...

Shabbat shalom Dustin.

I saw it as related to the concept Jesus explained that goes with the new commandment. "In as much as you have done it to the least of these my brethren, you have done it to me" Even in the old Testament if someone remembered at the altar that...