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Looking at it....that two walked away with no broken bones is amazing. The guy in the hospital is also doing well....all things considered. We are beyond thankful!

We should not even be having this discussion! Arguing about censorship on this site needs to be completely banned, because this is getting out of hand!

Our purpose here is not to have in fighting! It is not a foregone conclusion that TO is correct in the first place, any more than it was a foregone conclusion that the sun revolved around the earth! We who do not embrace TO, are thrilled to help...

It seems you have proven that you do not even understand what "self-contradicting" is -- much less self-defeating. But your endless 'debating,' and that you 'keep pointing it out,' in spite of saying the exact opposite, is certainly telling.

That is patently FALSE! The reason we keep pointing it out, is that the matter has been settled that we will NOT debate over this topic! If one side violates that rule, would you expect the other side to sit back and not respond? You are only...

That is patently FALSE! The reason we keep pointing it out, is that the matter has been settled that we will NOT debate over this topic! If one side violates that rule, would you expect the other side to sit back and not respond? You are only...

Yes!

Is that like, "go buy your own basketball court to play on!" ?

Perhaps. Or it could be, "go find someone who wants to play by your rules on their court."

If the astronomer wanted to discuss physics, then he could go to a site that is open to and caters for such a discussion. There is no need for making such a situation contentious if the owners of the site don't want physics to be discussed on...

Why can you not see it? It's not "finding ways around it" to try and discuss things that NEED to be discussed, because they ARE in Scripture, and they are intimately related! Ask an astronomer to discuss the motion of stars, but then forbid...

Well then what part of the world are you from again? We probably have several likeminded folks in your neck of the woods. Coordinate and get those back channels going!

After a little time and distance, I too believe this is what happened here. She was under intense pressure to conform. I've been around. I know real chemistry when it happens. It isn't every day that we form a connection this strong. I'm...

I think you are trying to point out the ""rule of equivalency"" is a bad rule. I agree! There are rules for men and there are rules for women. They don't always end up being the same rules. Just as there are rules for priests that do not apply...

PS> I would've thought few could miss the obvious point: The Roman Church had the same blind spot. And enforced it in a very similar way. To their own eventual 'embarrassment.'