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So your objection is emotional, about appearances, but with no actual scripture you can point to that shows it's wrong. Your objection is on the same footing as an objection to polygamy, "it's not what a Christian should be advocating, it can be...

So your objection is emotional, about appearances, but with no actual scripture you can point to that shows it's wrong. Your objection is on the same footing as an objection to polygamy, "it's not what a Christian should be advocating, it can be...

That is the attitude that sadly renders further discussion on "sex = marriage" impossible. As I said above, let's drop that aspect of the discussion and focus only on what is uniquely inspired by the passage in question.

That criticism would be easier to take if the other sides in this debate were criticized for having no thesis based in scripture whatsoever. No one else has even the beginnings of an idea of how to form a valid “marriage” in even the best of...

This may or may not be more than a bit self-serving. But it certainly piqued my interest. Hope it's even true:

Re: Covenant and marriage You ignore the entire story of the un-named servant, given "power of attorney" to "act in the name of" his mater, Abraham, and contract for a bride for his son, Isaac. Like it or not, there is a contract when she says...

That criticism would be easier to take if the other sides in this debate were criticized for having no thesis based in scripture whatsoever. No one else has even the beginnings of an idea of how to form a valid “marriage” in even the best of...

Except that a divorce is dissolving a one flesh union, not a “marriage”.

That criticism would be easier to take if the other sides in this debate were criticized for having no thesis based in scripture whatsoever. No one else has even the beginnings of an idea of how to form a valid “marriage” in even the best of...

I like this line of reasoning. I don’t have the scripture to back it up yet.

Thank you. I wonder how do you suppose we are ought to "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.” (Matthew 16:6). I would like to think that this is what I am doing in this thread. Is this not parallel...

Hello! My wife and I are from Oregon. We plan to go to the PNW retreat in May. I’ll shoot you an email. Look forward to meeting some likeminded folks!

It is the very fact that your thesis works only in ideal / normal situations but falls over "on the margins" that shows you don't fully understand it yet, and your understanding is too simplistic @The Revolting Man. But one thought you may find...

When He does, I will. Meanwhile, the lesson of Ezekiel 8 and 9 remains a warning: "YHVH said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the...

This is one of the values of good hymns too - they are memorable, so if they contain good theology you remember that. Which is also the danger of Christian music with bad theology...