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Titus 2

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But as for you (Titus, pastors):
  • communicate the behavior that goes with sound teaching

Older men are to be:
  1. temperate
  2. dignified
  3. self-controlled
  4. sound in faith
  5. sound in love
  6. sound in endurance

Older women, likewise, are to:
  1. exhibit behavior fitting for those who are holy
  2. not slandering
  3. not slaves to excessive drinking
  4. teach what is good

Meaning of the word "train" in the following:
the NET Bible note on this word said:
This verb, σωφρονίζω (swfronizw), denotes teaching in the sense of bringing people to their senses, showing what sound thinking is.
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Thus, the opposite of these things is not sound thinking and those that don't do them are out of their senses.

In this way they will:
  1. train the younger women to love their husbands
  2. train the younger women to love their children
  3. train the younger women to be self-controlled
  4. train the younger women to be pure
  5. train the younger women to fulfill their duties at home
    • oikouros
      Strongs #3626
      • Definition
        • caring for the house, working at home
        • the (watch or) keeper of the house
        • keeping at home and taking care of household affairs
        • a domestic
      • Meaning
        • train the younger women to care for the house and work at home
        • train the younger women to be keepers of their house
        • train the younger women to keep at home and take care of household affairs
        • train the younger women to be domestics
  6. train the younger women to be kind
  7. train the younger women to be subject to their own husbands
    • hupotasso
      Strongs #5293
      • Definition
        • to arrange under, to subordinate
        • to subject, put in subjection
        • to subject one's self, obey
        • to submit to one's control
        • to yield to one's admonition or advice
        • to obey, be subject
        • A Greek military term meaning "to arrange [troop divisions] in a military fashion under the command of a leader."
        • In non-military use, it was: "a voluntary attitude of giving in, cooperating, assuming responsibility, and carrying a burden."
      • Meaning
        • train the younger women to arrange themselves under and be subordinate to their own husbands
        • train the younger women to put themselves into subjection to their own husbands
        • train the younger women to subject themselves and obey their own husbands
        • train the younger women to submit control to their own husbands
        • train the younger women to yield to the admonition or advice of their own husbands
        • train the younger women to obey and be subject to their own husbands
        • train the younger women to arrange themselves under their own husbands, in a military fashion, as if under the command of a leader
        • train the younger women to have a voluntary attitude of giving in, cooperating, assuming responsibility, and carrying a burden of obedience toward their own husbands
Why?
  • So that the message of God may not be discredited.
  • So that the message of God may not be slandered.
  • So that the Word of God may not be discredited.
  • So that the Word of God may not be slandered.
Meaning?
  • Young saved women who don't do these things discredit the gospel.
  • Young saved women who don't do these things cause the gospel to be slandered.
  • Young saved women who don't do these things discredit the Word of God.
  • Young saved women who don't do these things cause the Word of God to be slandered.


Encourage younger men, likewise, to be:
  • self-controlled

Show yourself (Titus, pastors) to be
  • an example of good works in every way

In your teaching show:
  1. integrity
  2. dignity
  3. a sound message that cannot be criticized

Why?
  • So that any opponent will be at a loss, because he has nothing evil to say about us.
Meaning?
  • The opposite of doing things this way is evil, and opponents of the gospel will recognize that, point it out, and have something to bring against teachers of the gospel in order to repel the gospel itself.
 
Paul is speaking here to Titus and the people of the Lord, Christians, and is making statements which are no longer taught or accepted by most who are called by that name.

We either believe that the Word of Truth is entirely that, and receive it all, or not at all. We can't pick and choose what we like and leave off what we don't like.

The Bible is also written for all people and cultures everywhere, not culture specific as some believe. Some behave like we are an advanced culture somehow wiser than the Bible. The statements here are stated as good & evil, not offensive & non-offensive to a specific culture.

Woman is 'subordinate', a 'subject' to her husband... though she has an equally human body, working mind, soul & spirit... equality is somehow absent from this whole Scripture. Hmmm. Woman is to obey... (not get her husband to obey) is to yield to what he says & arrange herself accordingly. Where has all this gone - I don't see it in the Church but rarely. If older women are not doing these things, younger women cannot be trained to do them.

Why is it that we can submit, yield, place ourselves under God as subordinates AND YET HAVE A VERY REAL, INTIMATE, PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, and yet state that it is not possible to have a good relationship with a man unless we are on equal terms and level ground?! It makes no sense.

Funny thing is that we don't mind being slaves to drinking, shopping, gossip & talking on cell phone & computer. Walmart & Macy's call and obedience somehow kicks in fast! Girlfriend needs to chat... well you get the picture. Women love Walmart & Macy's; women love their girlfriends. Do they love their husbands, I mean really love them? Do they love their children as much as they should?

I know I'm bashing a little here, but I'm trying to ask pointed questions which will wake us up to how far we've fallen short of the glory of God in our lives. Old or young, we need to get these things straight. Men have a responsibility to God. Our responsibility is to the man God gave us, as His ambassador and patriarch of a family for His Holy Name. We need to take these things seriously.

God's Word, His message, I daresay even His Church is maligned because of us women - not exclusively us but certainly us. Men have allowed this by allowing the culture to go too far into this error. Women have pushed for 'rights' which have done us no real good.
 
Amen! I would like to say there are women who have recognized their own mistakes or the mistakes of the women who came before us and are trying really hard to get back to where we belong. Check out the site VisionaryDaughters.com. It was very inspiring to me to read their material. No we are not equal. Men can't have babies or nurse them BUT there things that men can do that I can not. Try lifting 100lbs of feed for chickens once. I can't. I am not made that way. I am made for a purpose, to serve my husband and family. Thank you for sharing!! :D
 
God made man FIRST! I was and still am, impressed in what Genesis 2:22 says - "......and brought her onto the man." Adam did not get up & go over to Eve. Neither did Eve walk over to where Adam was. God brought her unto the man!! Enough said! I firmly believe that we as women, should get up each morning with the thought of, "What can I do today to make this day better for him?" All that we do throughout the day, should be geared toward the betterment of him, anticipating his needs and desires, and when he comes home, all our attention should be toward him. On this earth, I think he should be the center of our world!! This of course can only happen as we seek God and ask Him to help us, as we want to be in the position He originally intended! (MOO) Even if he simply wants to have some quiet time, alone, we respect that, yet we should always have our "radar" up and quickly recognize anything he may want or need! There are 8 things God intended the older women to do. The first to be sober and I don't think it is referring to sobriety. The second is to love their husbands. So I ask the ladies, Are we indeed in that place in our walk with Him, that we are able to TEACH a young woman how to LOVE their husband?
 
Excellent posts! I came from a strong, Godly, Christian family where we were taught to be joyfully submissive to our husbands, but the truth for me is this:

If you do not understand and accept the proper role of headship and covering that a husband has over his wife, then you may think you are in complete subjection, but you're really not.

Let me explain better. Before I knew anything about PM, I was a pretty submissive wife. I loved, honored and respected my husband. Sure, I wasn't perfect, but I truly desired to be willingly under his authority.

Hpwever, when we grasped the concept of PM, my whole idea about total submission and my husband's ideas about covering and headship were now woefully inadequate. The difference in submitting before understanding PM and after understanding PM are vastly different. There are so many aspects of the husband/wife relationship that cannot be comprehended until both the husband's and wife's hearts are committed to the understanding that PM is righteous and holy before the Lord.

This doesn't mean you have to be in a PM relationship to gain this added understanding, but you have to be WILLING to be in a PM. I cannot overemphasize how differently I look at the husband/wife realationship since I bean to understand true headship. I have such a more beautiful picture of Christ's love for His church because of it.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid that the church loses so many "teachable moments" because of the tenacious clutch it has on monogamy.

Katie
 
Excellent posts, I agree! I was raised in a (seemingly strong) Christian home, and when I married I stayed home, and never thought twice about it... left the kids with family at home exactly twice in all that time, as I recall... not that I was paranoid or anything, but I was just there for the family. Even so, I look back and realize too, that certain things in my mind and upbringing were real problems and hindrances to me. My sisters and I were never trained how to be wives and mothers. Maybe Mom was never trained; maybe her mom was not. But all of them raised and taught in church... this is just UNACCEPTABLE.

I was submissive by all accounts, except when you move forward so much and then look back, you realize that it fell way short of what it should have been. Like you said Katie. How much heartache can be spared by training people for a more excellent way - men and women alike. Marriages are built on what the man and woman bring to it... themselves. If churches are not training, and parents are not training, and schools are certainly not training, then the Way of the Lord and the Word of the Lord is maligned by OUR ERRONEOUS BEHAVIORS & ATTITUDES. We can't seem to get that our attitudes and behaviors affect both our families and the Lord.

Thanks D... I also found this http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/?p=640

We need to pay attention to the fact that the Lord is all about families. Behind every man there should be one or more women. The Lord needs good men, and good men need good women. The Lord not only took an interest in Jacob, but He took an interest in the fact that Jacob loved Rachel more than Leah (I find that fascinating), and a very personal interest in how and when they had children! I don't know that it was just for the sake of building His nation Israel... it seems like He takes great interest in building good families. We shouldn't think something foolish that the Lord esteems so highly. If there's anything wrong in understanding, it's obviously on our part.
 
Ladiesagainstfeminism.com is a great site! So is visionarydaughters.com.
 
For women who balk at the word 'obey' in a male-female relationship, and even men, the whole obedience issue needs to be considered from the perspective of Agape Love. It's not about following barking orders at the threat of a week in the hole. The word 'obedience' needs to be redefined and re-interpreted to this generation from a biblical standpoint.

Obedience is about giving back the love that is received in a tangible and meaningful way. It's about cooperating with the overall plan which is for the benefit of the entire family It's about living your life and running your household in an orderly and organised fashion. It's about responding in kindness and joyfully. It's about not adding extra problems when life has enough as it is. It's about enjoying the good days and not sabotaging them with pettiness. It's about volunteer service to benefit your own household - giving yourself freely for a great cause, losing yourself in that cause. It's the whole concept:
Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. Luke 17:33
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Selflessness, kindness, and love, are what men and women both need to have most.
Everything about relationships goes back to the second commandment:
'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Matthew 22:39
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That should be posted on the walls of domestic court as well as our homes. Our neighbor in bed is our first neighbor. Our second neighbor may be smaller, in the next room. Love starts at home. Love is not a feeling, emotion, or sentiment. It's not what we say; it's what we do. It's faith expressed in action. Love has to be expressed.

Jesus obeyed a very hard thing. He will be the judge of how important that issue is that you have such a problem with wrapping your head around that your husband wants. In the end we will all come before the domestic Judge... and He's it! He may ask you, 'was there a cross involved?'

Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. I John 4:7-12
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This is a pet peeve of mine within the church !
Why AREN'T the older women coming along side the younger women and teaching them ?? I was once in charge of the single's group in a church I attended. It was mostly comprised of young, single, 20 'something' girls. I decided that I would try to get the older women in the church to come to our meetings. The younger women were willing but when I approached the older women in the church, they were polite but they made it pretty clear that they weren't interested in fellowshipping with the younger girls. They gave me every excuse in the book why they couldn't attend our functions. They had their own group and that was fine with them. The truth was some of the young girls really needed someone to mentor them.

I have run into this problem more than once. The older women seem to just want to do their own thing and stay within their own group. I have only encountered a few women who have been willing to follow the Biblical admonition in Titus 2. This is particularly sad considering that many young women in my church weren't raised in a Christian home. Who is going to teach these young women, if the older Christian women won't do it ?
Blessings,
Fairlight
 
I haven't posted here in a while, but from time-to-time I still read the boards. Fairlight makes a very significant point. It is a question I have been asking for more than two decades and although I feel as though I know the answer, the answer is not adequate or even appropriate. Humanity can continue blaming the devil for short comings all the way to sheol but it won't serve for an excuse even if it serves for an explanation. Now it would seem to me that men often stick their noses where they don't belong and that is why I checked this board carefully to see if this post by Fairlight was presented in a place where a fellow like myself might post with some measure of impunity. Yet, to be fair, there appears to be a steadily increasing influx of women in these latter days who are doing much the same thing as nosy men do. It would seem that folks are forgetting their roles as based on gender and consequently boys are growing up to behave as women and girls are being conditioned to think and behave as men. I realize that much of the conditioning is circumstantial as more and more marriages tend to well, fall apart. Yet it would seem that this sort of conditioning has all but permanently altered the earth upon which the seed is cast. What is springing forth from the earth should offer some indication of what the consequences gender egalitarianism have produced.

Women, often older women, are more content to concern themselves with the men's business and though this may not be altogether a fault, seeing as how the woman was created to be the help meet, it presents a problem for men. We see this happening in Christian mainstream now on a steady basis... Women Bishops... Women pastors... Priestesses... Over men. None of it is biblical, but the pressure is on. Yet part of it is largely the fault of certain men who are only too content to step aside and let the lady do the work; but if this should be the case (and I dare think it is more often the case than should be) just who is going to teach the maidens and the young children? Personally, I believe men have their hands full enough just with pastoring their own homes let alone pastoring other men's wives and children. No, something has gone terribly awry. My opinion is that the women of the assembly should primarily concern themselves with the leadership of women and children and that men should respect this and get on with their duties as men. There is yet another group that is slipping through the cracks fast and hard: Young men. I have been doing all that I can to reach young men today and I had no idea that things had gotten so far out of control. Too many young men are intoxicated with the ambrosia of gender egalitarianism. Many of them hardly know what it means to be a man. For the most part, It is a slippery slope for them and all of it is up hill.

As believers in the one and only true Messiah and Husbandman of all, I would say that we have inherited a terrible mess as natural men and women on this planet. Most of us have been left with a legacy of lies and a good many of these lies were preached to us from the pulpit. I will never forget my chagrin when I thoroughly combed through all of the scriptures, seeking GOD's own guidance, only to discover that having two wives was not adultery. Admittedly, this one single revelation completely changed my life and my views about biblical marriage; but alas, I feel that I learned too late in life those lessons which led to even greater lessons, opening my eyes to a terrible and wicked world even that much more. As a man, I suggest that as men we have been nefariously robbed by an insidiously elite group who decided to make merchandise of us long ago. They set the wheels in motion and what we see around us today in Society is the product of centuries of careful conditioning and culling of the population. My awakening brought me to a greater awareness of how we have been robbed of our birth rights. If, as men, we are robbed, our women and our children have also been robbed. How will we ever clean up this mess? We sure won't do it without Divine Intervention. As I said before, there is a place for the leadership of women in the lives of women and children. I don't believe this is an "optional" sort of thing in the body of Christ, but rather that it is ESSENTIAL for mature women to set this example instead of trying to take over the leadership of men. Both men and women can blame the short comings of the flesh for their own reluctance to mentor their younger genders all they wish and many of them do. "Middle-aged craziness" is only a cop-out for those who fail to mentor the genders they represent while they yet live in their mortal tabernacles of flesh and blood. Nonetheless, to overcome the enemy the assembly must UNIFY themselves AGAINST the enemy and realize precisely just who and what the REAL ENEMY is. GOD is a Spirit and we all must worship Him in spirit and in truth. Let all things be done in order: Elder sisters should be mentoring the younger sisters and the younger sisters should reverence them.

GOD bless the reader
 
Edward the elder - I read your post through to the first sentence of the second paragraph. I am not the least bit interested nor concerned in taking over the role of man. God has His originl plan and nothing will change that. I simply and respectfully disagree with your statement. You cannot "clump" all women together. I also must state that I truthfully do not know too many "real men." I am not a woman who concerns herself with man's business. There are those who feel they must as the men in their lives appear to be little boys running around in a man's body. Truthfully, they don't even know what the word responsibility means. As an "older woman" I have no intention of trying to usurp authority over the man. In fact I am endeavoring with His help to become the woman He designed us to be. :!:
 
Okay ! Back to Titus 2 :)
"WithFreshEyes" (or anyone), do you have any suggestions or ideas for getting the older women in a Church to take up the Titus 2 mantle ???
So many people just want to stay within their own little groups. :roll:
Blessings,
Fairlight
 
Greetings Edward,

I've just finished your post, as it was a thought provoking & informative one. If I understand correctly what you're trying to share, I believe that you were simply sharing some history of our nations secular decline & the pulling away from true Godly/Biblical living. Especially by the "main stream PC-politically correct & watered down churches of America." I didn't take it as you lecturing or pointing any fingers at any of us sisters in Christ here. Rather, you were reminding us all where our nation and many ungodly/untrained women, and Christian women alike are headed down a slippery slope of deception of false teachings. Sadly some of these false teachings as you've shared have come from many pulpits across the nation. :shock: I took your post as a reminder for us all, men & women - Brothers & Sisters in Christ to do our best to remain steadfast & firmly grounded in the word of God.

To be aware and not fall for the lies and deceptive false teachings of today's modern churches, regarding men and woman's proper biblical roles in the church, home, and in marriage weather in mono or pm's. There has been allot of misguided teachings," with so called well intended Godly intentions," taught to our women and girls from the pulpits. As well as from numerous womens ministries, bible study's & mother's groups, etc. I was one of the many women who also were misguided and wrongly led to believe many lies about my position in the church and home. Almost promoting their own idea/spin on " I Am Woman, hear me roar in the church as I lead out in My many ministries!" :? For many of years I allowed myself to be involved in almost every ministry under the sun! Never seeking my dh - my spiritual head's advice nor approval for any of these groups. Which left my "at the time searching dh with a bad taste in his mouth in regard to being in the family of God!" I wasted many years in the church, instead of serving and ministering to my own loved ones in our very own mission field of family!" I do believe there is a place for women in the church. However I do believe that our proper place in the church is limited. Pertaining only to the teaching of women and children, not in a position of leadership or teaching of the men/brothers in Christ.

We are told in scripturs to be "Keepers at Home, obey and submitting to our dh's in all things." I would have greatly appreciated finding and learning from any Titus 2 Godly woman that I could find, but to my dismay there were no such Sisters in Christ from which to learn and apply these biblical truths! :( Thankfully through prayer and study of my own, the good Lord has directed me towards studying and applying biblical balanced submission. And through submitting and obeying my dhs in all things, and acknowledging and respecting him as our spiritual head of the home, the Lord has blessed us with a new found love/healing and times of refreshing! It's a learning journey that we're on together, as my dh is desiring more things of the Lord and learning to be our biblical patriarchal head of our home. Neither one of us were raised in a Christian/Godly home, and were not saved until after our wedding. Being in some of these pc/luke warm churches over the years has hindered our learning and applying of these biblical truths for our proper Godly places as men & women of God in our church and in our marriage/family. I'm now in prayer seeking the Lords guidance, for when and how to start up a Titus 2 type of study with younger women in our community and church with another dear sister in the Lord. Of course before stepping one foot out in this direction, I'm seeking my dh's advice and approval of this adventure as well. If dh feels this isn't the time for me to do this, I will obey him in those wishes and not step out in this area. However through other discussions I've had with my dh on this topic, I do know that he feels this is an important issue to study and learn about for all women. Through joined prayer and conversations, I'll only go where God and my dh leads with this issue. Thank you Edward for adding to this topic, and for the important reminder to be aware & not to allow ourselves to follow these false teachings. God be with thee, guide thee & protect thee.

FOR HIS GLORY ALONE,
F.S. :)
 
To Fairlight - I think perhaps the "older" ladies maybe shoud be considered to be included in the group with the younger ones so as to be able to learn these truths. Age is not a detrimate to their learning, but an unteachable spirit is!
 
Greetings Fairlight,

I so enjoy reading your insightful and kind hearted posts here! :) This is a great topic, as well as a much needed issue to be discussed and prayed about in this day & age. While so many generations have fallen to the wayside, away from Godly/Biblical living and training of Godly children and helpmeets, we women of the faith need to step up to the plate in these areas. As I shared, I nor many other women I believe didn't have the blessing of being raised in Godly homes. Women who have come to the "Saving knowledge of the Gospel," many years later in their lives, especially would benefit and flourish in their marriages by having this vital and important biblical information/training available to them. And as "Withfresheyes" mentioned, age shouldn't be a factor as much as a teachable spirit is more important. Amen to that truth! ;) However as the scriptures tell us, as we're directed of God in this area, this training/teaching should be headed up by the wise/older women of the faith to the young wives, helpmeets and mothers. The older age can range anywhere from the 40's and on up of course. :) However, if there are "younger Christian wives," whom have had the blessing of being trained in these truths are available to help in this area, great as they should go for it! Really no debate or issue there, just get on with getting on with the matter at hand.

I do think it would be nice if we lived in the same area, as I'd be glad to venture out in this area of study with you. As I also shared earlier, I am in prayer seeking both God and my dh's will regarding the possible start up of such a study/training program. Open of course to all ages. And not that "I'm the expert in these matters, nor the all knowing one," just that it would be a blessing to have an encouraging support group/study with other like minded sisters. To come along side one another, speaking the truth in love, studying, holding one another accountable, encouraging and learning and training together on this journey. You know, striving "to be Christ like as we're called to do." Boy just how many more happy & fulfilled husbands and marriages could develop from such Godly training being implemented in our homes! :D

Btw Fairlight, where do you live? Also just wondering if you've had the blessing of attending a B.F. retreat before? My dh and I were considering going to the July retreat that was originally scheduled for the 2nd weekend in July. However when the date changed, we were not able to make that happen. It would be nice to be able to meet up one day. Do you home church or belong to any women's bible study that teaches or encourages along the teachings of Titus 2? God may lead you to step out in faith in this area to maybe lead some kind of study. You never know where the Lord will lead. Well take care, continuing on the path God has you on and finding joy for the journey.

F.S. :)
 
Faithful Servant,

Your journey to where you are in your walk with the Lord was very touching! Not many women are willing to give up their "church ministries" for their "home ministries". It takes alot of courage and dedication to swim against the current of popular church philosophy and make your home your primary mission field. God bless you as you strive to do His perfect will.

I feel very sad for those of you who have no older women to learn from. I have been blessed with my mother and grandmother, both godly women who are willing to teach the younger women. Of course, neither of them would probably ever consider PM an acceptable lifestyle, but they both truly desire to be Godly examples of biblical womanhood.

I'll be praying for those of you looking for older women to learn from. The Lord knows just what you need, and He provides our every need!

Katie
 
That was an incredibly good post Edward the Elder. Thank you so much for sharing and not holding back. I agree with everything you said. This topic is too important to leave alone, and we ladies need to be able to receive input from the men. After all, this is one of the main problems!

Thanks for your input Faithful Servant, too. This statement is where it's at:

I wasted many years in the church, instead of serving and ministering to my own loved ones in our very own mission field of family!
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I daresay there are few instances where the family does not suffer when a woman takes her ministry elsewhere. And is it any different than adultery, where a woman takes her interest to a stranger, rather than her own husband?

I mean biblically speaking... what would our LORD really call it?

Ezekiel 16:32
" 'You adulterous wife! You prefer strangers to your own husband!
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Not to say that a woman's work does not flow beyond her home. Of course it does. But it doesn't start elsewhere to flow inward... which is what is being promoted. As FS said, her ministry was not the good witness to her husband that the church and others might have said or thought it would be. It doesn't work that way.

I'm an older woman in ministry... I'm trying to sort out what is right and wrong about what I do. I don't preach to others and not to myself. I think we're all just trying to learn what the right thing is, so we can do it, as Edward also expressed.
 
Faithful Servant said:
Btw Fairlight, where do you live? Also just wondering if you've had the blessing of attending a B.F. retreat before? My dh and I were considering going to the July retreat that was originally scheduled for the 2nd weekend in July. However when the date changed, we were not able to make that happen. It would be nice to be able to meet up one day. Do you home church or belong to any women's bible study that teaches or encourages along the teachings of Titus 2? God may lead you to step out in faith in this area to maybe lead some kind of study. You never know where the Lord will lead. Well take care, continuing on the path God has you on and finding joy for the journey.
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Hi F.S. :)
I live in Cambria, California. It's about halfway between Los Angeles and San Francisco. It's a small beach community with a ton of Monterey pine trees. It's very pretty. :D
I haven't had the pleasure of attending a B.F. retreat yet but I'm planning on going to the one in October in California. I'm really looking forward to meeting many people face to face.
I go to a Baptist church; although, I have a Foursquare background. I am in a women's Bible study there but there isn't any group along the lines of Titus 2. I've actually never been in a church that has had a group like that. I've made suggestions but they've not yielded any results. I'm going to try again, though ! :)
Blessings,
Fairlight
 
Greetings & Blessings Brothers & Sisters in Christ!

As I've been reading through all of these posts regarding the topic of "Titus 2," I've enjoyed the shared wisdom & insights from all. The idea dawned on me about the possibility of starting an on line study of Titus 2, here on B.F. Possibly in the ladies forum, as we have recently finished a study there. Or what about somewhere in the open forums here as well? A place where the brothers and sisters in Christ could both chime in and learn from one another. Not that the women would be teaching the men anything mind you. Just that we would be seeking their advice, wisdom and direction as the spiritual heads of their homes. The men could maybe share if and how they were raised in Godly homes, and how they may have been raised/trained to be the Spiritual-Patriarchal Head of their homes. Maybe like an open Q & A, or open study for men & women alike who weren't raised in Godly homes. It surely is an important foundation to any marriage, especially those whom are studying, praying and seeking God's will for a possible pm. Just my 2 cents, the rambling of my heart & head on these matters! ;) Any thoughts, ideas, or suggestions? Take care all, being faithful on the path Yashua has placed you on. Seeking His Will, Wisdom and joy for the journey! :)

FOR HIS GLORY ALONE,
F.S.

I PRAY THAT I BE NOT A HINDRANCE! ;)
 
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