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Stories of persecution for your beliefs.

Herbie

Herbie

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I have always wanted to know peoples stories about How they have been persecuted because of our beliefs. Stories of: threats, slit tires, busted windshields, familial excommunications, government harassment, online abuse, being spit on, assaults, just evil stuff that people have done because of your fight for the cause all belong in this thread.

Many civil rights movements have suffered persecution, only by these instances being made public do people see the injustices these individuals and families suffered. Its time people know what we have been through. Persecution often leads to rights. So lets list them.

I will start In 2014 me and my wife at that time. Had our car vandalized until she had to leave her job. And I was poisoned nearly to death by some distant relatives. I suffered constant online bullying on Facebook, along with phone calls that it was just better to keep my phone off. I know I am not the only one that has been mistreated like this. what are your stories.
 
At the time polygamy beliefs. We had been talking with people that we knew about it, and a few people started messing with our lives. I figured more like me had experienced this. I know people have been asked to leave churches as well. there has to be more instances of others going through this.
 
Most persecution, is simply shunning. Family, church, etc.... I have neither experienced nor heard of any physical threats or attacks. I suppose those could hppen if we tried to force an agenda, but we prefer to live and let live. No reason to push until there is escalation. That is counter productive to the whole awakening.
 
we really were not pushing anything. We were looking for a sister wife at the time, and were telling friends and family what we believed so it would not come as a surprise to them when it happened so we could have it out of the way. When I was poisoned I had been with some family and I had been talking with them about how polygamy was not against the bible. They Got angry and told me that I would go to hell and everyone like me deserved to go to hell. I was eating with them and around them for a few days there. They made it clear my kind was not welcome so I took my leave. I got sick near death very soon after. A toxicologist determined I had been poisoned.

My wife had told a few friends of hers at work. Just looking to create a support network really. Then she was shunned and her car started being messed with. First the doors would get keyed. then they began to cut wires under the vehicle. someone actually broke the radiator with what looked like vicegrips so a hose could not go back on.

we both started receiving all kinds of junk on facebook that was honestly just messed up. they never bothered her phone but mine would ring off the hook but no one spoke when answered. it was pretty clear we were not liked.
 
It was not fun. but like you said those who left you "were not real friends anyway". the only people who have stuck by me have been few. I can honestly say my belief in Biblical Marriage sure does not bring any ladies around, But it has gotten rid of rotten people in my life. For that I am truly thankful.
 
We are a polygamous family but we are quite careful about who knows about our beliefs.
We haven't been as bold as your family has been. I'm surprised.

It may be that the mission(s) G-d has for your family are important enough that the enemy is just using any reason possible to derail you guys.
If it wasn't polygamy it would be something else; some other secondary issue (non-salvation) doctrinal position.
@andrew could speak more to this as he's been involved with counseling many polygamous believing families over the years.

Regarding your passing comment about not bringing ladies around; have you considered looking outside the states?
Some societies are more open to polygamy than others.
 
IshChayil said:
Regarding your passing comment about not bringing ladies around; have you considered looking outside the states?
Some societies are more open to polygamy than others.
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Only problem with that is the immigration laws that require an actual marriage which makes it difficult when there is already a marriage license in place. Outside the US would be a great place if it wasn't for that.
 
We don't necessarily live secretively, but we do live quietly. Not a lot of interaction with neighbors, no PDA where people might know us, etc. So we haven't really gotten any messing around.

That being said, I made a big mistake early on. I was really depressed about plural marriage, so I went to a counselor to talk. I figured it would be a safe space. *shrug* I was 20 and super inexperienced and naive. As soon as I said my husband was married to more than one woman, I was hit with a bunch of questions, mostly centered around children in the home. We didn't have children, which calmed the counselor to an extent, but I was still terrified because it opened my eyes to the issues we could face.
 
That's a good thing to point out, Lili. I wouldn't call it persecution but even well-meaning folk can feel compelled to mess with your head, and the ill effects of that can be greatest in the long run.
 
Nothing related to polygamy, kicked out of the church long before for trying to follow the bible in my life. That plus hatred and reviling. Oh and on two occasions I suspect a member reported us to CPS to try and get our kids taken away. But I can't prove that as its all anonymous.
 
IshChayil said:
It may be that the mission(s) G-d has for your family are important enough that the enemy is just using any reason possible to derail you guys.
If it wasn't polygamy it would be something else; some other secondary issue (non-salvation) doctrinal position.
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If that's the case it did derail it cause I don't have a family period. While sick from the poisoning my wife tried to care for me, but it was too much she ended up committing adultery with another man. I found out when he attempted to kill himself. He shot his self in the chest. I forgave her. Well the guy healed up and went home from the hospital. She immediately began the adultery again left and went over there. Well a blood clot broke loose and hit his brain and killed him the very night she went over there. Upon her return I told her to leave and wrote her out a writ of divorcement on an old burger king bag. lol no joke. I could not find a priest that actually believed in biblical marriage so I just signed it myself and gave it to her. Im finally healed up from the poisoning still some problems but I am able to hold my own now.
As far as a secondary message I was teaching a message about how people worshiped money instead of God and that Yeshua did not handle money because he was free of sin and that money was a graven image that violated the second commandment. that Judas was made treasurer to emphasize this fact. and that peter denied him 3 times as a result of him touching a silver coin that he later stopped handling because he said silver and gold have i none but to rise up and walk in acts I felt very strongly that God wanted me to spread that message so I did and still do I don't know for what purpose but I felt I was led to do so by God.
 
IshChayil said:
Regarding your passing comment about not bringing ladies around; have you considered looking outside the states?
Some societies are more open to polygamy than others.
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My brother who supports me in my beliefs but does not practice them him self suggested that I could go to Jordan and live. I am just not muslim though. Another person suggested I just pretend to be muslim but still believe in Yeshua. I don't know how well that would go over though. Its bad when Christianity has fallen that far that its easier to live biblical by pretending to be muslim in another country is even an option that people suggest right. you could hear it now. honey come look remember that guy with the horrible haircut on biblical families. the muslims have stoned him to death apparently he tried to hide among them as a christian just to live Biblical marriage. lol
 
rockfox said:
Nothing related to polygamy, kicked out of the church long before for trying to follow the bible in my life. That plus hatred and reviling. Oh and on two occasions I suspect a member reported us to CPS to try and get our kids taken away. But I can't prove that as its all anonymous.
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they probably did man. its messed up that now once they do take someones kids. they can put them in Supposedly normal homosexual households to be raised by good Christian people right. oh its so messed up. im sorry you had to deal with that rockfox.
 
Herbie said:
If that's the case it did derail it cause I don't have a family period. While sick from the poisoning my wife tried to care for me, but it was too much she ended up committing adultery with another man. I found out when he attempted to kill himself. He shot his self in the chest. I forgave her. Well the guy healed up and went home from the hospital. She immediately began the adultery again left and went over there. Well a blood clot broke loose and hit his brain and killed him the very night she went over there.
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It sounds like God got Nabaled him.

Sorry about your ex-wife. Good job keeping the faith.
 
As an observer, the one thing that I saw strike real fear into the hearts of vv76 and WellLovedWife was the comment the pastor made during the meeting that had been called as a result of VV76 sharing his new truth about poly that Wed. night after church at Braums. It was a meeting with the men of the church, the pastor, and vv76 so of course I wasn't there. However, he told us of the meeting upon returning home that night. The pastor had pushed the idea in the meeting of "child endangerment". The very idea that this man of God, who has 10 children himself, would even think about turning vv76 and WellLovedWife into the authorities and possibly destroy their home and their children all over the fact that the truth of poly had been presented to him totally blew my mind. I saw that fear hang over WellLovedWife and vv76 for several weeks. Not only were we all dealing with the grief of being kicked out, this other possiblility and the fear it brought only added to the mix of emotions. Even now it's very difficult to describe those weeks after Resurrection Sunday. As we gathered in vv76's living room that Resurrection Sunday to worship, instead of being among other believers rejoicing in what that day meant, we had to look to Yeshua for our strength and joy.
 
Herbie said:
they probably did man. its messed up that now once they do take someones kids. they can put them in Supposedly normal homosexual households to be raised by good Christian people right. oh its so messed up. im sorry you had to deal with that rockfox.
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Its shockingly worse than that, in general and in my case. But I can't go into details.

rejoicinghandmaid said:
The pastor had pushed the idea in the meeting of "child endangerment". The very idea that this man of God, who has 10 children himself, would even think about turning vv76 and WellLovedWife into the authorities and possibly destroy their home and their children all over the fact that the truth of poly had been presented to him totally blew my mind.
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Reporting parents to CPS is so evil I am floored at the thought a Christian would even consider it. But I know they do.

There is no justice in that system, it's child abuse, kidnapping, and extortion under color of law. It does vastly more harm than good.
 
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It's the anonymity that is I think the worst element. Someone can accuse you with no knowledge, or consequence whatsoever, just to cause you grief.
Someone reported us years ago. I talked to the agent that was sent out, liked her even. The only thing I have against her is she told me she would send me a copy of her report, stating the allegations were all found to be false, and she never did.
I now have a good reason why I will NOT speak to another agent, should one ever come here again.

I stand on "All things work together for good" and all of the "Fear not." Verses.

I hope to NEVER have my children taken from me, but Joseph had a mission in Egypt. The only thing we can do is look,at all the stories that have been written for our learning when we go through hard times....and trust He will someday wipe away every tear.
 
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