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Ordained Ministers From Other States?

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Tarzan and Jane decide to get married. Tarzan lives in Virginia and Jane lives in Pennsylvania. Tarzan and Jane are going to live in Virginia after they're married and are going to be married in Virginia. The man that they want to marry them lives in Montana and is also ordained in Montana. Is the preacher able to marry Tarzan and Jane in Virginia and it be legal even though he is ordained in Montana?
 
I think it matters what "ordained" means. Who is the minister "ordained" by? Are you asking about legality and marriage license being recognized by state? Or are you asking about the minister being legaly allowed to perform ceremony?
 
In this case, I am thinking that you mean state licensing. If you do mean that, then the person who signs the license and certificate must be licensed in the state where the wedding takes place. If there is enough planning you could get the Montana person to apply for licensing in Virginia. My sister went through this when she got married. They said their vows in Wisconsin but the priest who conducted the ceremony was only licensed in Illinois. They got around this by going across the border, signing the certificate and then coming back to Wisconsin to do the ceremony. FYI every state has different requirements but there doesn't seem to be much of a big deal about getting a license to perform marriages. In Nevada my next door neighbor had one. She was wiccan.

Best of luck to Tarzan and Jane.

Love Lissa
 
Yeah that was what I was looking for. I was just wondering about the "legality" of getting married by a preacher from another state. Now what about military Chaplains? Technically they're federal and not state. I know that a couple of members of the board have been military Chaplains.

I guess I'm again putting the buggy in front of the horse.
 
DaPastor says that sometimes a person can get special permission if they plan ahead a bit. You might look into the laws in the place where Tarzan and Jane want to get married.

Sweet Lissa
 
Brother Todd,
It is my understanding that all a Minister needs to do is bring his Licenses or his Ordination Certificate ( as proof of being one or the other ) to a clerk of court in the state he wishes to perform the wedding and register. Once registered, he then can perform weddings anywhere in that state.
 
Sorry, guys, but this whole discussion just reinforces in me a tremendous desire to "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues," and speak His truth "boldly", as I ought to speak:


Once registered, he then can perform weddings anywhere in that state.
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But that registered agent of Caesar needs to understand clearly who he serves.
 
Brother Todd,
Here is what I have found on the following web site http://marriage.about.com


Officiants in Virginia:
Any ordained minister who can show proof of ordination. Marriage Commissioners,and Judges (Circuit Court, District Court, or retired) in Virginia may also perform civil weddings.

This is all it states...It does not say to whom the Minister is to show proof of ordination too.


Brother Mark,
I agree that the state needs to get out of telling people what does or does not make a marriage.
 
Brother weltan,

I know for me, and I am sure for most on here who are ordained, we did not receive our ordination from any state, but, as in my case, from my local church assocation and my home church at that time, once I had gone through an ordaination process. Once approved and had gone through my ordianation, I was given a certificate from them stating that I was now ordained to preach. The state had nothing to do with it.
 
If a person wishes to have state 'license' (permisson) I don't really have a problem with it as long as they know what they are asking for. Me, I wish I had known 20 years ago what I know now...better late than never, but I do wish clergy would make things abundantly clear to people what they are really getting into.

Yes, that's the problem though, the 'legality' of inheritance, estate and all that is controlled by the system we call government, and it is the world we live in. Sad, but sometimes that's how to protect assets, me, I'll trust my assets to Yahweh, he'll plead my case his way.
 
Prov.28
[9] He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

1Cor.14
[37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Matt.7
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Luke.6
[46] And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Those that are ordained follow the word of God. Those that do not are not from God.
 
Hello Brother,


I do not believe in the standard "go to Bible College/Seminary route" to get "ordained". Scripture does not support the "intellectual qualification" route for ordination. It supports the local church "faithfulness/character" route". Not that I am anti-intellectual. After all, I have two degrees and am pursuing others. However, I believe that any ministry degree program should be linked directly to a local church environment - "know those who labor among you"! I believe that the route should be a combination of a) Inward Calling (he who desires to be an elder), b) Leadership Confirmation (Elders are to appoint the qualified), c) Fruit Confirmation (Faithful in Little, Faithful with Another Man's, Faithful with Finances), and d) Prophetic Confirmation (Acts 13).

Furthermore, I do not believe it is the job of clergy to perform marriage ceremonies. The marriage covenant was a covenant between a man and his wife(s) plus witnesses. The wedding feast/celebration/consummation took place later. Perhaps someone here knows the timing of when the Church began using clergy to not only officiate this covenant but to combine the marriage covenant with the wedding celebration. Originally these two events could be as far as twelve months apart.
 
Marriage ceramonies are like bastisum. You do not need a baptisum to recieve the holy spirit. A baptisum is a ceremony for everyone else including yourself if nessesary that your reborn. If you believe to be reborn you are. Just like if you believe yourself to be married you are.

Acts 10 [44] While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
[45] And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[46] For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
[47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
[48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Baptisum is a sign to others of recieveing the holy spirit it is not a prerequisite for recieveing the holy spirit. The Gentiles manifested the spirit first showing they had the spirit of God. And because the had the spirit of God first they then Got baptised not the other way around. If you believe yourself to be married then you are. If you want other people to believe you are married then you should have a wedding.
 
A number of States don't require any proofs for a minister to conduct a marriage ceremony today. But that married couple MUST obtain a marriage licence from the county clerk. You'll need to check with each jurisdiction to see what the requirements are.
 
I conducted a marriage two week ago. It was my second. The way I figure it. If a man and a woman are haveing sex then in Gods Eyes they are married. So if they feel the only way to legitimize their union is to get married then I will marry who ever need one to help solidify their commitment to each other. Though I made sure I was ordained on April 1 just to show how serious I was about it. "APRIL FOOLS" Get it? My ordination is a Private joke to myself.

(All of this is true... I just have a strange sense of humor)
 
The ordination means nothing to me. I got it on line for free you just fill out an application. But to others it means something. Certain people can not believe to be married unless they have an ordained minster marry them. If a person need me to validate there lifelong commitment then I will do so. If a person can not see themselves as commited unless they get married then get married. I was married to my wife when I slept with her for the first time. But we celebrate our aniversery on the date that we went to the courthouse. Why did we do this? Because my wife needed the marriage ceremony to prove to her that I was commitied even though I was commited from the start. I dont believe in marriage but the bible doesnt say that marriage is evil. So if a person needs to get married I will marry them because a life long commitment is a godly thing. And I will do what ever it take with out contradicting scripture to insure that that commitments is believed by both people.
 
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