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This is so off topic it's not funny, but since this forum contains a bunch of home schoolers I thought I'd ask here.
Does anyone have any good resources for teaching children Chinese? Preferably online, though I'll consider anything.
Children range in ages from 11 down to 6. Bonus points if you have something that will teach preschoolers too :D.
 
Have you looked at www.memrise.com? I am using it now to learn Biblical Hebrew, and I love it. In the course I am taking it only teaches the words, so there is a lot more than that to be learned, but it is a great start for me.
 
Can you find Chinese cartoons on youtube? Not the Japanese junk, but kids cartoons like sesame street.
 
Have you looked at www.memrise.com? I am using it now to learn Biblical Hebrew, and I love it. In the course I am taking it only teaches the words, so there is a lot more than that to be learned, but it is a great start for me.
Looks similar to what we're using now, which is fine for adults but not great for young children.

Can you find Chinese cartoons on youtube? Not the Japanese junk, but kids cartoons like sesame street.
Yes, there are some things on there, but I'm wanting something that's really interactive and actually teaches the children properly.

If any of you know Reading Eggs, what I'd ideally like is something similar, but teaching Chinese instead.

I'm currently losing my mind going through different apps, none of which really give me what I want. They seem to be for adults or 2 year olds, there's no in between.
 
I have heard a lot of good things about Paul pimsleur's approach/program. I don't really have any personal experience with it though. They say it is a good program because it teaches a word or phrase, and then reintroduces it right before it's forgotten, which then turns the short term memory into long term memory. I think the program costs about $600.00.
Does anyone else have any experience or thoughts on this learning method?

Edit: This also may be better suited as a adult learning tool, but it might be worth looking into.
 
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I love languages myself, and have looked into Chinese (Mandarin). I am now thinking it would be good to learn Mandarin because of a growing threat of Chinese terrorist infiltration of other countries (similarly I would like to learn Arabic).

I have a friend at church who is from China, and he is NOT Chinese: he is Fushangrian, and his people are oppressed by the Chinese government (though of course they oppress all their people). The Chinese try to claim that there is only one Chinese language (Mandarin) that has a lot of dialects, when they are actually many languages separate from Mandarin that are suppressed. There is an illusion of a single language because the Asian character writing actually functions as a separate language itself, like the plains sign talk of the native Americans, and provides communication between people who would not be able to understand each other's spoken language. There was actually a man who developed a separate writing system and tried to emphasize distinction of his native Hmong culture, who was assassinated by the government.

So yeah, a lot of interesting and scary stuff. My friend hates the Asian characters because he associates them with the Chinese, but I love them (they weren't invented by the Qin and weren't and aren't only used by them after all).

Some things about the character writing that will encourage you: the idea that there are 50000 unique pictures that have nothing to do with their definition and must be individually memorized is all false. There are no doubt many people who learn it that way, and they are of course greatly daunted by the task.
Firstly, there are only 214 radicals which are used in combination to make up all the 50000 total characters, and many of the radicals are rarely used, so you could say the radicals are the "alphabet" and the rest of the characters are words.
Also, these individual radicals can be traced to their original picture, and once you see it you can't easily unsee the connection. As I mentioned before, the characters are like sign language, and it helps you learn them if you think of them this way I think. The combinations are themselves mnemonic, for example the radicals for man and tree together mean "rest": a man leaning against a tree. Though radicals are also used when the character has (or used to have) a similar sound as the radical.

Here is an index of the radicals:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Index:Chinese_radical
Clicking a radical in the index shows all the characters that radical appears in.

Here is a more compact list, and if you mouse over a radical it gives the meaning, and clicking it goes to a page that often shows the pictographic origin of the radical and its progression to its current shape, which is very helpful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radicals_in_Unicode
This list is at the bottom of the Wikipedia article on radicals:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_(Chinese_characters)

http://chineseclass101.com is probably a good source. The class101 language learning programs usually have a lot of material that can be downloaded during their free trial (they had good stuff for teaching radicals for the Asian characters part of learning Japanese), and their free membership has a lot of good stuff. They seem to have a lot of good videos on youtube you can watch without a membership at all. It's probably geared for adults though, I haven't specifically looked if they have anything for the younger side.
 
Pimsleur sounds good, but isn't for young children.

Still having trouble, but we have found Chineasy which isn't too bad. We bought one of the books to use with the children. It's using traditional instead of simplified characters, but it's somewhere to start.
The children are also enjoying watching Peppa Pig in Chinese on Youtube, even the older ones.
 
I also noticed Chineasy which seemed to stand out in a quick search, but then I haven't used anything geared for children before, except a Spanish learning computer game in the misty past of my childhood.

By the way, traditional characters is a good way to start I would say. Many people use them, many consider them to be the "real characters", which is true enough since, rather than developing through time and usage, the simplified characters were completely made up modifications. And one of the main values of the whole character system, one of the main reasons people don't (and shouldn't, I would say) switch to a different system, is because the characters are what has been used by billions for thousands of years, and contains the wealth of all the culture of that time. The the relatively recent simplified characters obscure the connection with everything that came before them.

And since the simplified came from the traditional, it makes sense that learning the traditional would help learning the simplified, like learning the word before learning the abbreviation.

All this being said, both Korea and Vietnam used to have the Asian characters, but have mainly stopped using them after they escaped Chinese control (though apparently they used them before Chinese control). What is sad to me is that Vietnam switched to a Latin alphabet system. It has nothing to do with their ancient culture. Far better to me is Korean, which made their own writing system (their language is completely unique as well, a language isolate, with no living "related" languages). Though the Korean writing system is "new", it at least is a product of their own culture (and I guess I am sympathetic because I am a language inventor and especially like invented writing systems).

Sorry, I rant a lot when it comes to languages. I don't see Babel as entirely a curse, but also as an act of creation by God. All languages trace their roots to him, and by studying language we draw closer to him. Why else is the sign of the Spirit the understanding and interpretation of tongues? Many fail to realize the significance of tongues (plural), rather than a reversal of what God did at Babel, and a reversion to a single, common tongue.
 
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