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Meat Entire Church Still Pretending Not To [x]...

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https://babylonbee.com/news/entire-baptist-church-still-pretending-not-to-drink

[x] in this case is drink. But this applies to so many other things.

Most relevant to our discussions...fornication. They all preach no sex before marriage but if you want to find someone who didn't do that, just find anyone with a ring on their finger. Or anyone whose been dated longer than 5 months or so.

Call it the Facebook affect. It doesn't matter how your life actually is, only what other people perceive. It's the sort of life standard practiced by those who engage in gossip and backbiting. Every faith has a small set of these moralish behaviors the church expects people to outwardly hold to (you might think that super liberal church doesn't, but just try and wear a MAGA hat on Sunday and you'll find out different).

This is part of the reason why people here get such pushback from the church despite acting in a more moral fasion. It's one thing to be having sex with a side piece on the down low, it's another to do it openly and even worse to marry her and call it righteous.

This is also why you get pushback if you do something out of the ordinary like headcover or dress modestly. You're doing something outside the small subset of moralish things from scripture. When you do something outwardly that goes beyond that, you make everyone look bad, you implicitly say in their language that they are less righteous. It doesn't matter that you can justify it by the Bible. What matters is you do it for moral reasons, which implicitly means to them you think it's immoral not to (even if you don't), which implicitly means you condemn their actions.

A lot of this comes down to the consumer approach of churchianity. They are marketing the feelgoods of righteousness. When you add to the subset of moral things you're challenging their brand, upsetting the applecart, challenging the authority of the church leaders.
 
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https://babylonbee.com/news/entire-baptist-church-still-pretending-not-to-drink

[x] in this case is drink. But this applies to so many other things.
And this is why I am one of MANY ex Baptists who "crossed over" into the hebraic. Some come for the dancing, others for the oneg and regular "feasting" ...lol.
Most relevant to our discussions...fornication. They all preach no sex before marriage but if you want to find someone who didn't do that, just find anyone with a ring on their finger. Or anyone whose been dated longer than 5 months or so.

Call it the Facebook affect. It doesn't matter how your life actually is, only what other people perceive. It's the sort of life standard practiced by those who engage in gossip and backbiting. Every faith has a small set of these moralish behaviors the church expects people to outwardly hold to (you might think that super liberal church doesn't, but just try and wear a MAGA hat on Sunday and you'll find out different).

This is part of the reason why people here get such pushback from the church despite acting in a more moral fasion. It's one thing to be having sex with a side piece on the down low, it's another to do it openly and even worse to marry her and call it righteous.

This is also why you get pushback if you do something out of the ordinary like headcover or dress modestly. You're doing something outside the small subset of moralish things from scripture. When you do something outwardly that goes beyond that, you make everyone look bad, you implicitly say in their language that they are less righteous. It doesn't matter that you can justify it by the Bible. What matters is you do it for moral reasons, which implicitly means to them you think it's immoral not to (even if you don't), which implicitly means you condemn their actions.

A lot of this comes down to the consumer approach of churchianity. They are marketing the feelgoods of righteousness. When you add to the subset of moral things you're challenging their brand, upsetting the applecart, challenging the authority of the church leaders.

And this is why many of us Baptists have "crossed over" to the hebraic...wine is good! Others come for the dancing...lol.
 
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And this is why many of us Baptists have "crossed over" to the hebraic...wine is good! Others come for the dancing...lol.
HA! Love it!
 
Hear, hear, @Sgfmo-Shawn and @Robhar . So much more fulfilling simply walking out the commandments and trusting Yeshua. Nothing compares to a great Shabbat fellowship. First century qahal at its best!
 
To be fair to the Baptists, the Bible is clear in it's commands to not get drunk. And strong drink is repeatedly cautioned against. So too has God praised those who abstain from alcohol (Jeremiah 35). The problem isn't in their abstention from alcohol. The problem is in their hypocrisy, in teaching something God didn't teach, and in ignoring the whole council of God and the Holy Spirit by enshrining as the standard a mere subset of what God would have us to do.
 
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