Coming soon?

[steve]

Interesting speculation by Dave Hayes:



I have no sources of intelligence or information that is not available in the public domain. These are my own thoughts based on my analysis of past events and some dreams from God.

A Speculative Timeline of the Storm:

The only reason Joe Biden is keeping gas & diesel prices down is to lose as few seats as possible in the November election. After the election, there is no reason to control fuel prices. The deep state needs to destroy supply chains and the economy as fast as possible so they can "prove" capitalism is a failure and try to usher in the socialist great reset before Trump returns.

Since this appears to be their plan, I expect a sudden rise in gas & diesel prices beginning mid-November.

Diesel fuel is the life blood of retail supply chains. Trucks and trains powered by diesel carry goods to the marketplace. When fuel becomes too scarce or too expensive, deliveries stop and retail stores run out of everything quickly.

If fuel becomes too expensive or too scarce and store shelves are not restocked, the public will panic and set into motion a chain of events that's impossible to stop. Stores will be looted, causing owners to close for business, worsening the scarcity of food and other items. Civil unrest will follow. (Note what is happening now across Europe.)

If civil unrest spreads, people will begin to prioritize their own safety over that of others. Those who work in protective services (EMS, Fire and Law Enforcement) must decide if they'll report for duty to protect you or stay home and protect their families. Some will choose to stay home, worsening the crisis.

If civil unrest becomes widespread, Governors will be forced to deploy the National Guard. Biden is likely to declare a national emergency and probably declare martial law (at least in some locations). This may be when the internet goes dark.


If the internet goes down, the financial markets and banking systems will be thrown into chaos which will worsen civil unrest.

Biden has been a civil as he can be toward the MAGA, community but after the election, he has no reason to hold back the wrath of the deep state. I expect increased harassment, persecution and unlawful imprisonment of patriots by the feds.

At some point, Biden's DOJ will attempt to indict and arrest Trump, which will lead to even more civil unrest and give the deep state more justification for targeting patriots.

A show of force is on the horizon between the deep state's uniformed thugs and armed patriots who can only be pushed so far. I expect that before a bloody revolution occurs, patriots in the military will assume command and assist in the reinstatement of Trump as President, either through a new election, or after presenting convincing evidence to the public that he won the 2020 election outright.

When Trump returns to the White House, he will appoint a new cabinet and the prosecution of corrupt people in places of power can commence.

After the November mid-term elections, I expect things to spiral downward quickly. All of this could happen in just a few short months.

 

[MemeFan]

Stealing elections is also under law of marginal utility. Each next "unit" of stealing gets less useful than one before and more expensive. Since everybody knows about sheningans with last election this means fortification of current elections making stealing more expensive. Red wave will arrive and they will have to steal more. More to steal plus stealing itself getting more expensive equals very expensive stealing.

If democrats achieve Biden type of victory everybody will know that elections was stolen. Then forget about Biden's tyranny. Without political solution only option remaining is violence. In best case seccesion or in worst civil war. America is done then.

In any case demand destruction is certain due to raising interest rates. That enough for economic havoc in world. Don't expect help from goverments, but them fueling even more chaos.

Also deep state isn't unified as is seems. Fed is fighting against current admistration. Large groups of people are always cartel-like. When everybody is getting raising it is no problem. But US is not in this position. So cartel is breaking apart. Evidence: Did Biden admin pass any key legislation in full (truncated version with only 15% of original don't count)? No.

First two paragrafs are golden:

Economic Reduction and Inflation Expansion - Everything's Out of Stock and Nothing is Cheaper - Gold Goats 'n Guns

“I was into pain reduction and mind expansion, but what I’ve ended up with is pain expansion and mind reduction. Everything hurts now, and nothing makes sense.“ — Carrie Fisher, Postcards from the Edge So, Davos finally got the mini-me version of Build Back Better through a deeply divided Senate...

tomluongo.me

 

[steve]

Stealing elections is also under law of marginal utility. Each next "unit" of stealing gets less useful than one before and more expensive. Since everybody knows about sheningans with last election this means fortification of current elections making stealing more expensive. Red wave will arrive and they will have to steal more. More to steal plus stealing itself getting more expensive equals very expensive stealing.

There is also concern that an “event” is being planned that will give an excuse to cancel/postpone the midterms.
WWIII would be handy.

 

[MemeFan]

There is also concern that an “event” is being planned that will give an excuse to cancel/postpone the midterms.
WWIII would be handy.

We shall see. There are forces working to stop "event". NATO is trying to join Ukraine in war. So far, no excuse has worked.

 

[Maddog]

May our Father help us...

 

[FollowingHim]

Diesel fuel is the life blood of retail supply chains. Trucks and trains powered by diesel carry goods to the marketplace. When fuel becomes too scarce or too expensive, deliveries stop and retail stores run out of everything quickly.

In New Zealand, due to different taxation treatment of diesel and petrol, diesel has in the past been about half to 2/3 the price of petrol. This is because taxes for road maintenance are placed on petrol per litre, but charged for diesel vehicles separately per kilometre - so the underlying fuel price has always been similar for both, but petrol more expensive at the pump due to higher tax. And when you worked it all out, diesel vehicles were almost always cheaper to run.

Two days ago, diesel prices moved higher than petrol for the first time ever (to my knowledge). Diesel vehicles are now much more expensive to run than petrol vehicles - and tractors, heavy machinery and ships will have massive running costs. This is really going to hit supply chains and further accelerate inflation in all areas.

When fuel and food prices go up, people stop spending on everything else. That crashes every other area of the economy, creating a depression.
And severe depressions lead to political revolutions.

 

[steve]

In New Zealand, due to different taxation treatment of diesel and petrol, diesel has in the past been about half to 2/3 the price of petrol. This is because taxes for road maintenance are placed on petrol per litre, but charged for diesel vehicles separately per kilometre - so the underlying fuel price has always been similar for both, but petrol more expensive at the pump due to higher tax. And when you worked it all out, diesel vehicles were almost always cheaper to run.

Two days ago, diesel prices moved higher than petrol for the first time ever (to my knowledge). Diesel vehicles are now much more expensive to run than petrol vehicles - and tractors, heavy machinery and ships will have massive running costs. This is really going to hit supply chains and further accelerate inflation in all areas.

When fuel and food prices go up, people stop spending on everything else. That crashes every other area of the economy, creating a depression.
And severe depressions lead to political revolutions.

At this point, diesel is about 1/3-1/2 again higher than the price of gas, which has not been the case in the past.

 

[JimC]

What are we to do with this??
Romans 13 Everyone is to obey the governing authorities. For there is no authority that is not from God, and the existing authorities have been placed where they are by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists the authorities is resisting what God has instituted; and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are no terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you like to be unafraid of the person in authority? Then simply do what is good, and you will win his approval; 4 for he is God’s servant, there for your benefit. But if you do what is wrong, be afraid! Because it is not for nothing that he holds the power of the sword; for he is God’s servant, there as an avenger to punish wrongdoers.

Are we to continue to follow leaders that are serving a false god or themselves? Are we to follow leaders that may be in power only because of corruption? One could say that we are to follow our leaders because Elohim allowed them to be elevated. One could say they are in power because the enemy caused them to be elevated.

 

[NickF]

What are we to do with this??
Romans 13 Everyone is to obey the governing authorities. For there is no authority that is not from God, and the existing authorities have been placed where they are by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists the authorities is resisting what God has instituted; and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are no terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you like to be unafraid of the person in authority? Then simply do what is good, and you will win his approval; 4 for he is God’s servant, there for your benefit. But if you do what is wrong, be afraid! Because it is not for nothing that he holds the power of the sword; for he is God’s servant, there as an avenger to punish wrongdoers.

Are we to continue to follow leaders that are serving a false god or themselves? Are we to follow leaders that may be in power only because of corruption? One could say that we are to follow our leaders because Elohim allowed them to be elevated. One could say they are in power because the enemy caused them to be elevated.

Those so called leaders are largely all criminals in violation of the foundational laws of the land. They are invalid as authorities.

 

[The Revolting Man]

What are we to do with this??
Romans 13 Everyone is to obey the governing authorities. For there is no authority that is not from God, and the existing authorities have been placed where they are by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists the authorities is resisting what God has instituted; and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are no terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you like to be unafraid of the person in authority? Then simply do what is good, and you will win his approval; 4 for he is God’s servant, there for your benefit. But if you do what is wrong, be afraid! Because it is not for nothing that he holds the power of the sword; for he is God’s servant, there as an avenger to punish wrongdoers.

Are we to continue to follow leaders that are serving a false god or themselves? Are we to follow leaders that may be in power only because of corruption? One could say that we are to follow our leaders because Elohim allowed them to be elevated. One could say they are in power because the enemy caused them to be elevated.

This very carefully worded passage works several ways. First, it soothes the worried minds of tyrants everywhere. But read it carefully, what authorities does God institute? Ones that are a terror to evil and not to good. The proper authority is one who wields the sword to punish evil and not good.

This passage is another in a long line of seeming paradoxes that our faith embraces and then resolved; the first shall be last, die in order to live, give in order to receive etc.

We are to submit to authority, and resist tyranny (keeping in mind that tyranny needs to be defined through the lens of scripture).

Thus Dietrich Bonhoeffer was correct to try and assassinate Hitler. The American Revolution was a bit less clear but still supportable. The English Revolution was possibly a little more supportable than that. The French Revolution was pretty much unsupportable and of course the Bolshevik Revolution was the work of Satan.

 

[FollowingHim]

Thus Dietrich Bonhoeffer was correct to try and assassinate Hitler. The American Revolution was a bit less clear but still supportable. The English Revolution was possibly a little more supportable than that. The French Revolution was pretty much unsupportable and of course the Bolshevik Revolution was the work of Satan.

It may be difficult to judge whether a particular revolutionary movement is supportable or not, especially when you are in the middle of it yourself. In the early days of the French revolution, Christians strongly supported it - at that stage the apparent intent was simply to improve the lot of the general population, and the goal appeared noble. The majority of the clergy openly and enthusiastically supported it, particularly the lay priests who could see benefits for their parishoners. Catholic support dissipated when the revolution turned against the church, but Protestant support remained strong for a long time as the revolution was bringing them religious freedom and putting down their primary historic enemy - the Catholic church.

There were Christians on both sides of the American and English revolutions, strongly arguing both cases on religious grounds. I am less familiar with the Bolshevik revolution however I would expect there were Christians in the lower classes who welcomed and supported it at least initially, not knowing what it would become.

In politics, nothing is clear at the time.

 

[Mark C]

What are we to do with this??
Romans 13 Everyone is to obey the governing authorities.

To start with, get a decent rendering into English.

And don't forget - if Paul SEEMS to contradict Scripture - guess who's wrong? (here's yet another great example for 'another thread.' ) What about that "two masters" thing the Real Master once said?

My 'personal fave' is the GIV* for illustration:
"When Big Brother says, 'JUMP!' you say, 'how high?' "

* Government Inspired Version

Note that the guy who wrote this was arrested (more than once, clearly) and refused to obey as ordered himself. What does that say? Note, too, that 'as rendered' it flies in the face of Scripture AND EXAMPLES...from the midwives (who didn't obey THEIR pharoah, but were blessed for it! Exodus 1) on.

The word 'exousia' is another prime example. When I teach this particular Big Steenkin' Lie - I sometimes render that word as "higher liberty" or other synonyms you'll see ARE used for the same word elsewhere, by the same writer.

Check a concordance, and make the substitution, see for yourself. Makes ALL the difference.