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How do you go about "coming out of the polygamy closet" for the first time? Lol. That was dumb, I know. My husband and I are having our hearts worked on by God and Lord willing one day we will be taking a second wife. My question is, What did you all do, how did you go about bringing this topic up concerning your family and friends who you kept this from? I know we will be unfriended on FB (who cares), kicked out of church (that's gonna hurt), unfriended by friends (makes me sad) but what is a good Godly smart and sensitive way to handle this?
The hardest part is ALL the questions that will arise as well. Oh boy. They are coming. I am not looking to tell people, we are hoping for a wife, but wanting people to know we do support this Godly lifestyle so that they know when the time comes and it's Gods will, it's not a huge shock to them. They already knew where we stood to begin with. I hope this all makes sense.
 
How do you go about "coming out of the polygamy closet" for the first time? Lol. That was dumb, I know. My husband and I are having our hearts worked on by God and Lord willing one day we will be taking a second wife. My question is, What did you all do, how did you go about bringing this topic up concerning your family and friends who you kept this from? I know we will be unfriended on FB (who cares), kicked out of church (that's gonna hurt), unfriended by friends (makes me sad) but what is a good Godly smart and sensitive way to handle this?
The hardest part is ALL the questions that will arise as well. Oh boy. They are coming. I am not looking to tell people, we are hoping for a wife, but wanting people to know we do support this Godly lifestyle so that they know when the time comes and it's Gods will, it's not a huge shock to them. They already knew where we stood to begin with. I hope this all makes sense.

Well we ended up separated from friends and family because of another issue so I don't have specific advice about how to explain your beliefs about marriage... However I will caution you that you should expect and be prepared for your closest friends and or family to try and get you to leave your husband. This is extremely likely to happen and you need to be prepared ahead of time to sever ties with folks who attempt that.

Shalom
 
If our experience is anything to go by, your "Christian" friends will be the worst to deal with. They will respond in the most ungodly ways by far and no matter what you say or how you say it, it will turn out worse than you can imagine. But I would rather suffer their abuses than deny the truth of God's word and miss out on the privilege of having my wonderful wives.
 
How do you go about "coming out of the polygamy closet" for the first time? Lol. That was dumb, I know. My husband and I are having our hearts worked on by God and Lord willing one day we will be taking a second wife. My question is, What did you all do, how did you go about bringing this topic up concerning your family and friends who you kept this from? I know we will be unfriended on FB (who cares), kicked out of church (that's gonna hurt), unfriended by friends (makes me sad) but what is a good Godly smart and sensitive way to handle this?
The hardest part is ALL the questions that will arise as well. Oh boy. They are coming. I am not looking to tell people, we are hoping for a wife, but wanting people to know we do support this Godly lifestyle so that they know when the time comes and it's Gods will, it's not a huge shock to them. They already knew where we stood to begin with. I hope this all makes sense.
The best way to do this is to not. Don’t do it. Until there is a woman on the radar there is no need to invite this trouble.

Of course the reality is that it will come out anyway on its own. Don’t worry about it, don’t actively hide it, and be ready for the whirlwind that will try to envelop you when it does come out.
 
The best way to do this is to not. Don’t do it. Until there is a woman on the radar there is no need to invite this trouble.

Of course the reality is that it will come out anyway on its own. Don’t worry about it, don’t actively hide it, and be ready for the whirlwind that will try to envelop you when it does come out.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
How do you go about "coming out of the polygamy closet" for the first time? Lol. That was dumb, I know. My husband and I are having our hearts worked on by God and Lord willing one day we will be taking a second wife. My question is, What did you all do, how did you go about bringing this topic up concerning your family and friends who you kept this from? I know we will be unfriended on FB (who cares), kicked out of church (that's gonna hurt), unfriended by friends (makes me sad) but what is a good Godly smart and sensitive way to handle this?
The hardest part is ALL the questions that will arise as well. Oh boy. They are coming. I am not looking to tell people, we are hoping for a wife, but wanting people to know we do support this Godly lifestyle so that they know when the time comes and it's Gods will, it's not a huge shock to them. They already knew where we stood to begin with. I hope this all makes sense.

Draw your strength from the Lord. Pray lots. These are forms, albeit minor, of persecution. Christ prophesied that these rejections would come, must come, if we are His. God by His Spirit will see you through. Don't invite them unnecessarily. But don't flee from them nor fear them either. Our reward in the next life is far greater than we can ever loose in this. Count all the losses as gain for Christ.
 
How do you go about "coming out of the polygamy closet" for the first time? Lol. That was dumb, I know. My husband and I are having our hearts worked on by God and Lord willing one day we will be taking a second wife. My question is, What did you all do, how did you go about bringing this topic up concerning your family and friends who you kept this from? I know we will be unfriended on FB (who cares), kicked out of church (that's gonna hurt), unfriended by friends (makes me sad) but what is a good Godly smart and sensitive way to handle this?
The hardest part is ALL the questions that will arise as well. Oh boy. They are coming. I am not looking to tell people, we are hoping for a wife, but wanting people to know we do support this Godly lifestyle so that they know when the time comes and it's Gods will, it's not a huge shock to them. They already knew where we stood to begin with. I hope this all makes sense.

It seems like the most important thing you are already prepared for: you will lose people over this. The good news is that you will find out who your real friends and family are.

There is no right or wrong way to do it. It all depends on how militant you want to be for the truth. Now that you know the truth you are going to start running into the lies more and more often and it all depends on how much you want to speak up about it.

A good strategy is to ask the difficult questions. That way you do not have to have all of the answers. Simple speaking up and saying, "Where in the Bible does it actually say that?" can do a lot.

There is no denying that it is helpful to study and know the answers to the difficult questions for yourself as best as you are able. There are a number of web sites and books that have questions and answers with explanations. So study up and make the faith your own and it will be easier.

Laying low is one strategy. The downside is that if you do find someone you will have more work to do and the discussions may be more volitile than if you have discissions when it is only a theoretical possibility. You will be ahead of the game if you can have discussions with family in advance. I have been an "out" polygamy supporter for over 10 years, and I think my extended family would hardly bat an eye if I took a second wife at this point. The downside is that you will also have to deal with the fall out in advance and there is a good chance you may not ever find anyone and it will be all for nought anyway.

Anyway, how to do it specifically? You might try picking your favorite pro-polygamy meme in that meme thread and post it to facebook and then have fun dealing with the fallout. It can be helpful if you are already Facebook friends with some of the people on here, so they can comment in support if you need it.

Also, never forget that you have nothing to prove. If they say it is wrong the burden of proof is on them. You do not have to have all of the answers to convince them. They need to convince you.

Warning: A major reason why this ministry exists is to give polygamists and polygamy supporters a place to fellowship when they get dis-fellowshipped by the mainstream. Count the cost and be ready to pay it. God bless you! :)
 
A good strategy is to ask the difficult questions. That way you do not have to have all of the answers. Simple speaking up and saying, "Where in the Bible does it actually say that?" can do a lot.
But be prepared for the fact they have no biblical justification for their arguments. They will appeal to emotions so don't allow yourself to be drawn away into that. Stick to what is written.

Also, never forget that you have nothing to prove. If they say it is wrong the burden of proof is on them. You do not have to have all of the answers to convince them. They need to convince you.
And they can't prove the message wrong so they will probably attack the messenger - you. Be ready to politely close the conversation down if things get heated.
 
Honestly, It was hard. I am a second wife and it was one of the hardest things I have ever done. I was kicked out of my home as I was staying with family while I was in transition into my new place. I did not tell my church anything then I moved and such to be with Husband and Sister wife which that caused an uproar of why I had not told them I was dating anyone etc. Which quite honestly even if it had been a monogamy relationship I did not feel it was anyone's business. We all moved in together and now reside in a small town. We went to a local church here for a bit until they started asking why we had three adults in the same home. It's been a very interesting journey and totally one I would do in a heartbeat all over again. I love my husband and sister wife and would do anything I can to keep us as a happy unit.
 
Or you can do it the way I did it: accidentally. If I could guarantee it would turn out for you the way it did for me, I would actually even recommend it.

Four summers ago, I was on vacation in Canada with my wife, our two daughters and one of our sons. I discovered that the rep who sold me the international plan was wrong about my phone being able to call from Canada, so I knew I had to inform people that they wouldn't be receiving their regular calls from me and would have to rely on email. Prioritizing such efforts, I decided to start with the woman I'd been wooing for some months who lives in North Carolina. I just went to my last email message from her, replied and explained the situation, emphasizing that I simply wouldn't be able to call her as often as I had been -- but that I'd return to our regular schedule once I got back stateside in 10 days.

Just before hitting Send, I thought, 'This is pretty much what I need to say to some other friends and to everyone in my family,' so I just loaded up the cc line with all of their email addresses -- and clicked it gone.

It didn't occur to me that the email I had sent included pretty much all of my email correspondence with the woman for the previous 4 months in its never-deleted thread . . . until my oldest son called my youngest son freaking out (the oldest son didn't know I was actively seeking another wife), which angered my youngest son, who then inspired my wife and daughters (to whom I'd promised I would be discreet about my search at least until I actually found someone) to join him in that anger. The rest of that day was a very quiet one in the car as we drove through Nova Scotia on our way to Newfoundland. Threats were made to never speak with me again as everyone contemplated that everyone on my side of the family was about to discover that Dad was a freak!

But the next day, as we continued on what turned out to be something they now refer to as the trip of a lifetime, the thaw ensued, and by the end of the next day everyone was back to being lovey-dovey. For some months, we waited for hammers to drop, but for the most part they never did. My parents hinted around about it and then finally came straight out with the big question, to which I was entirely forthcoming. And it became a non-issue. It probably helps that I've always been the black sheep, but I can promise you that, over the long haul, for us it was far better to get everything out on the table all at once than to wait around for years fearing various possible negative outcomes.
 
Don't.

This shouldn't be a big deal. You are simply accepting that the Bible says what it says in plain language. It's just a theological point. Do you make a big deal "coming out" with every new detail of theology you learn? No? Then why make this one a big deal?

By making it a big deal, you force people to choose an opinion. They feel obliged to uphold what they feel is Godly, and oppose sin. Even if it destroys your relationship with them. They do this even though they would prefer not to, because they feel forced into that position - by you making this a big deal.

Just go along in life as if nothing has changed. If the issue comes up in conversation ever, address it then, but treat it as self-evident truth, not something you're making a big scene about. If they make it a big deal, be surprised they're so passionate about something that doesn't affect any of your lives.

If it becomes a reality for you, address it then. But until then you're just inviting trouble for no good reason.

The whole idea of "coming out" was invented by the gay community, is a satanic idea, and should have no place in our thinking. You are not a new "sexual orientation" or some such nonsense just because you believe the Bible. You're just a normal Christian, with the faith in God's word that every normal Christian should have.
 
My coming out story wasn’t quite as entertaining as Keith’s. A friend who had a fair number of kids and a potential second was possibly going to bring her to one of my kid’s birthday parties. I decided to forewarn members of my family so there would be no drama. I was able to tell of the general belief and some of the arguments in a way that wasn’t intensely personal for my parents and in-laws. My friend didn’t bring the second, I think that relationship started disintegrating that day as the whole thing got very real to her. Later on my parents realized that this was something I believed in and I have been informed if I ever did it I would never see them again.
 
Just thought I should clarify what I meant by this:
"coming out" ... is a satanic idea
The gay community is built around "pride" in who they are. A person can muddle through life with various feelings and opinions, and be tolerated to a greater or lesser extent by others around them. Their family can love them even while disagreeing with their opinions and behaviour. But when someone "comes out" as gay they are making a firm stand, and expecting others to accept them for who they are. They are forcing others to either accept them completely, or reject them completely (and be ostracised in return). The entire "coming out" is designed to cause division, between those who are on the side of the gay person, and those who are against them.

Satan loves to destroy what God has made. "Coming out" destroys families. It is aimed, either intentionally or unintentionally, most strongly at a person's immediate family. It forces them to pick sides - and creates a division in the family between those who agree with the gay person and those who disagree. A family is God's creation, and should love each other even through disagreements - "coming out" shatters that, and says "if you don't agree with me, you don't really love me". Satan laughs in the background while the family is torn apart.

If a Christian adopts this approach to polygamy, the result will be the same. Because that is what "coming out" does, that's what it has been invented to achieve.
 
If a Christian adopts this approach to polygamy, the result will be the same. Because that is what "coming out" does, that's what it has been invented to achieve.
Doesn't "coming out" involve also living that lifestyle? A person can express his or her approval of polygamy but coming out and living it adds actions to one's words. When I said I agreed with the biblical position of polygamy, it wasn't too bad but when I came out and practised it; taking another wife, whoa.... that was a whole different matter. Shalom
 
Doesn't "coming out" involve also living that lifestyle?
I think this is two different things. I have seen several people over the years refer to "admitting that I believe polygamy is not a sin" as "coming out". I can't recall anyone referring to "revealing that I have a second wife" as "coming out" - that's far more serious, and different. Gays "coming out of the closet" are stating who they, personally, think they are, in an open fashion. They might have been living the lifestyle for years in secret, or have never practiced it at all, but they "come out" when they make a public statement about what they believe about themselves - so it is about mindset, not practice.

I agree entirely that living it adds actions to your words, and your experience is very real. But I don't think that is the question being asked in this thread.
 
The gay community is built around "pride" in who they are.

The pernicious thing about it is they define themselves by their sexuality; and everything else is subordinate to that.

We shouldn't be defined by being polygamists (or any other theology, denomination, etc). We should only be defined as followers of Christ.
 
Later on my parents realized that this was something I believed in and I have been informed if I ever did it I would never see them again.
You don't have to reply in public like this, my friend, but I'm purposefully asking in the thread because I think it's relevant: do you believe your parents would make good on their threat?
 
There is a tone in this thread, at least in my perception, of people making declarations of approved and unapproved manners of communicating with the world who we are as individuals. I support resisting such dictates. These are individual decisions, wherein individuals and families do their own risk assessment, balancing perceived and potential advantages and disadvantages for various path choices, and then consciously choose to risk certain negative outcomes in exchange for increasing the likelihood of certain other positive ones. To avoid all risk is to avoid all life. Just as death is an inevitable companion to life in general, life fully lived involves taking certain risks along the way. Safe does not equal fully alive. If someone looks like they're about to jump into a volcano, it's time for us to get busy making declarations about the certainty that the outcome will be disastrous, but a great deal of what we're really talking about being at stake with being open with our communities about what we believe and how we choose to live our lives doesn't represent risk of disaster; it predominantly represents risk of disapproval, which is something we are all capable of surviving.
 
Personally, we have made the choice to be open about our beliefs to anyone who asks about them. Our family business doesnt fall under the same criteria and is on a need to know basis. To my knowledge, all of our immediate families know of our beliefs. Most, we’ve had a conversation with about it. Some have not wanted to have that conversation and thats ok.

If we add another adult to our family, I see no need to advertise it to the world, but have made the decision to be open about it to extended family and close friends, regardless of their response, and on a need to know basis with everyone else.

But thats just us. You all do this how you feel led. My point is to make a conscious decision and decide beforehand how you’re gonna live this. For some women, being out is a necessary prerequisite for good reasons. For some women, being closeted is a necessary prerequisite, for good reasons.
 
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