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I think you are very close but I would add the thought that it’s desire to unlawfully possess. And maybe this is a distinction without a difference but when it comes to almost anything a man owns (except for his women) there is a way to lawfully possess them. If he is willing you can buy his house or car... you can lawfully take his daughter as well. So the standard isn’t just don’t desire someone else’s possession it’s don’t desire to steal it...
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You should start a new thread.
That line is called "ownership".
That's not lust, just poor decision making and thinking with the wrong "head".
Agreed!
I’m saving up “good will” on the forum, right now... but one of these days... look out! Haha
I just strong s these to see if they were using the word for lust but they are not. They are using the Greek word usually translated to jealous.
éloó: to be jealous
Original Word: ζηλόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: zéloó
Phonetic Spelling: (dzay-lo'-o)
Definition: to be jealous
Usage: (a) intrans: I am jealous, (b) trans: I am jealous of, with acc. of a person; I am eager for, am eager to possess, with acc. of a thing.
This is translated from the word meaning to reach for.
oeegó: to stretch out, to reach after, to yearn for
Original Word: ὀρέγω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: oregó
Phonetic Spelling: (or-eg'-om-ahee)
Definition: to stretch out, to reach after, to yearn for
Usage: I stretch forth, mid: I hanker after, long for, am eager for, aspire to.
New testament word translated to lust.
Epithumia: desire, passionate longing, lust
Original Word: ἐπιθυμία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: epithumia
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah)
Definition: desire, passionate longing, lust
Usage: desire, eagerness for, inordinate desire, lust.
I think they miss translated it in our modern bibles. In the original it says “she shall be called WHOA MAN!! because she was taken out of man”23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
I could be wrong but I think Adam was looking at her shape...and I don't think God reprimanded him for it...
Same word as is used in Matthew 5:28 bro.
We can do this all day and I'm with you guys for the most part. The Church has demonized sex and sexuality. What i worry about which is an equal error is going to far in the other direction becoming full of lust. I guess I just want to add a little caution.
I think that is a good attitude to have. I would encourage you to keep studying it out, brother.
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I think they miss translated it in our modern bibles. In the original it says “she shall be called WHOA MAN!! because she was taken out of man”
I think the actually phrase was, WHAO MAN, L O O K A T T H A T ! ! ! And then the whistle was invented.
I just looked it up to make sure and Matthew uses epithumia. Not the word for jealousy.
https://biblehub.com/kjvs/matthew/5.htm
Attachments
Strong's Number
G1937
Original Word
ἐπιθυμέω
Transliterated Word
epithumeō
Phonetic Spelling
ep-ee-thoo-meh'-o
Parts of Speech
Verb
Strong's Definition
From G1909 and G2372; to set the heart upon that is long for (rightfully or otherwise): - covet desire would fain lust (after).
Thayer's Definition
long (3), covet (2), desire (2), desired(2), lust (2), coveted (1), craved (1), desires (1), gladly (1), longing (1), sets(1)
Usage by Book
Matthew, Luke, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Galatians, 1 Timothy, Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, Revelation
G1937
Original Word
ἐπιθυμέω
Transliterated Word
epithumeō
Phonetic Spelling
ep-ee-thoo-meh'-o
Parts of Speech
Verb
Strong's Definition
From G1909 and G2372; to set the heart upon that is long for (rightfully or otherwise): - covet desire would fain lust (after).
Thayer's Definition
- to turn upon a thing
- to have a desire for, long for, to desire
- to lust after, covet
- of those who seek things forbidden
- of those who seek things forbidden
long (3), covet (2), desire (2), desired(2), lust (2), coveted (1), craved (1), desires (1), gladly (1), longing (1), sets(1)
Usage by Book
Matthew, Luke, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Galatians, 1 Timothy, Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, Revelation
Deserves its own thread, but several posts here have talked about, or warned against, adding ho the commandment. It seems to me that this us more serious than we realize.
Consider: Eve added to the command when she answered the adversary with, 'we are not to touch or eat of the tree.' The actual command was don't eat. Touching was never a part..
Now, is it possible, that the adversary has no case/no footing when we cite Scripture only, BUT he can tempt, even viciously, when we add to or take away from the commandment. I.e., does our altering the command allow him greater access than if we simply stick to the command. Another way, does our self righteousness, based in a wrong understanding or obedience to the command open us up to the adversary?
@Pacman specifically touched on this when he said,
Thoughts?
Consider: Eve added to the command when she answered the adversary with, 'we are not to touch or eat of the tree.' The actual command was don't eat. Touching was never a part..
Now, is it possible, that the adversary has no case/no footing when we cite Scripture only, BUT he can tempt, even viciously, when we add to or take away from the commandment. I.e., does our altering the command allow him greater access than if we simply stick to the command. Another way, does our self righteousness, based in a wrong understanding or obedience to the command open us up to the adversary?
@Pacman specifically touched on this when he said,
Thoughts?
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So are you saying @Asforme&myhouse and I are going to hell.
I know you guys are trying to have serious discussion. I'll stop.