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I was listening to some one talk a few minutes ago. And they used the phrase "super hot" to describe a lady. Do you think that is a objectiving statement. Or do you think that is ok. In my opnion I think it is wrong. We need to focuse at developing the lady closer to Jesus instead of the outward appearance. What do you think.
 
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." (Rev 21:2)

"and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom. And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD." (Eze 16:13-14)
I think this is El speaking about Israel, but metaphorized as a beautiful woman.

In the above verses, it would seem that a woman's outward appearance is a thing worthy of remark.
...and even for a man...

"But in all Israel there was none to be so much praised as Absalom for his beauty: from the sole of his foot even to the crown of his head there was no blemish in him" (2Sa 14:25)

I don't see a fundamental problem with referring to a lady as "super hot".
 
The enemy has high jacked sexuality, and perverted our proper perspective of it altogether.

When Yeshua said,
““You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:27-28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
... I’m pretty sure He was referring to a married woman.
... I for one certainly, absolutely had the “hots” for my bride prior to taking her as mine. But now if another man looks upon her lustfully wanting to take her, he is committing “adultery” in his heart, because she belongs to me... and she is not available for the taking.
However, if that same dude sees an available woman that does not have a husband, and finds her to be super “hot”... this is not only acceptable, it’s perfectly natural and normal.
God designed sexuality... giving us men desire and appetite for the female form... it’s a blessing to be enjoyed in this life... just with wisdom and self control and righteousness therein.
 
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And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Genesis 24:16 KJV

Roughly translated meaning she was smoking hot.

And as far as what brother Rusty is saying....

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5:27‭-‬28 KJV

I agree with him 100% it is talking about married women. with that being said we know men have beautiful wives and the verse is commanding us to not take it to the next level lust.
What makes it so difficult today is men are allowing their wives to dress in ways that say here am I take me, and you really don't know if they're married or not unless the obvious he and the children are with her or if she's by herself you see a wedding band but then again if you're like us we don't have any wedding rings. So to take the verse real serious just don't lust after any women except for your own.
Now don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with a wife dressing very beautiful for her man.
When my wife and I would walk through the mall I would comment on how pretty a woman is or how strange they are, but I also do the same for men I've said wow that's a handsome guy then there are men well if they're like me it's only a face that a mama can love lol.
 
Song of Solomon 4:1-4 said:
Behold, you are beautiful, my love,
behold, you are beautiful!
Your eyes are doves
behind your veil.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
leaping down the slopes of Gilead.
Your teeth are like a flock of shorn ewes
that have come up from the washing,
all of which bear twins,
and not one among them has lost its young.
Your lips are like a scarlet thread,
and your mouth is lovely.
Your cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate
behind your veil.
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There isn't anything wrong with finding a woman physically attractive this is how God made us. But as @rustywest4 points out it should not be someone else's wife and it should be done is self-control.
I call my wife beautiful or hot quite often and I want her to know that I am physically attracted to her.
 
James A said:
I was listening to some one talk a few minutes ago. And they used the phrase "super hot" to describe a lady. Do you think that is a objectiving statement. Or do you think that is ok. In my opnion I think it is wrong. We need to focuse at developing the lady closer to Jesus instead of the outward appearance. What do you think.
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If calling a woman “hot” is objectifying her, then my wife likes it when I objectify her :p

In all seriousness though, I think I get what you are saying. I too think there is way too much focus on outer beauty almost to the exclusion of inner beauty, in society. That is what the passages in 1 Timothy 2:9-10
[9] In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; [10] But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

And in 1 Peter 3:3-6 are talking about.

[3] Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; [4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. [5] For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: [6] Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

These verses are telling us that it is the inner beauty that has value, not the outer beauty, and that should be our focus. That being said, I think women need to know that their husband finds them attractive, and there is no sin in her beautifying herself for her husband. If the inner beauty is there, then the outer beauty can be enjoyed.

As far as “objectification” goes, i think that’s kind of a made up thing, that feminists came up with to make a men feel bad for being excited when they see a beautiful woman.
 
Mathew 5:27-28 is not talking about married women. The battle is in the mind. And he have to keep in mind that time as we view it. Has no bearing with God. In my opnion the verse is saying that the battle is in the soul/mind. If you think it then you become it unless God intervenes. That is why being egually yoked is so important. 1st corinthians 13:4-5 what if you look at a lady and see her pyschial appearance and she is beatiful and say she is super hot and she is not your wife. I think you committ a sin because your looking at another mans wife. We have to try to look at it from a perspective of time is irrelative to God then you start to look at it differently
 
Proverbs 31 is what we as men are suppose to look for in a wife. But it does not give us permission to be at work or any where for that matter and say a lady is super hot. It is are dutie and right as men to weigh the spirit/soul of the ladie first no matter the appearance of the outside
 
If you start a conversation with a lady because of her outward appearance only in my opnion we as men have failed
 
Super hot- in my mind is a lustfull thought/mind set mathew 5:28. If I am walking the store and see a lady and say that I am putting the pyshical appearance/realm over the spiritual realm. Where if I am someplace a Godly lady is exhibiting Godly traits and your attracted to those traits over her appearance that in my opnion is worth persuaing and courting her
 
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There isn't anything wrong with finding a woman physically attractive this is how God made us. But as @rustywest4 points out it should not be someone else's wife and it should be done is self-control.
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I'd disagree with this and say there is nothing wrong with thinking/noticing/being-of-the-opinion another man's wife is attractive. Unless you're blind, the eyes will see and you'll notice. I've met quite a few men from BF who have very beautiful wives...in both appearance and the quality of women that they are. Is it wrong of me to say that? My opinion...I don't think so. It's becomes a problem when a man desires something or someone that belongs to another man. "Finding attractive" does not = desire. :)
 
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Not living in fear but ratherweighing everything in the spirit first is how I look at it
 
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I'd disagree with this and say there is nothing wrong with thinking/noticing/being-of-the-opinion another man's wife is attractive. Unless you're blind, the eyes will see and you'll notice. I've met quite a few men from BF who have very beautiful wives...in both appearance and the quality of women that they are. Is it wrong of me to say that? My opinion...I don't think so. It's becomes a problem a man desires something or someone that belongs to another man. "Finding attractive" does not = desire. :)
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Boaz and Ruth is a good example of that. But that was in present tense when Jesus says in Mathew 5:28 he is trying to say in my mind any lady That is single already belongs to a man as a wife and should be treated as if your talking to a married lady. Bye approaching it this way you eliminate pyshical appearance and weigh the conversation based upon the spirit
 
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