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Oh I love it as a shotgun. And I have to admit that I almost like it as a Galil. But I just can't quite get there. It's just not a great rifle, certainly nowhere near as good as it's hyped to be.
The best gun is the one you have with you when the bullets start flying. Also, the best ship is the one that's available...
So on that note: As far as I can tell from the media, the Russian fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean well outnumbers the US fleet right now. That may change in a few weeks with the arrival of a US carrier group. But right now Trump has few options to attack Syria, and any ship that tried would be seriously in danger. But more foolish things have been done before.
The Chinese navy is small and not a massive threat in itself. The Russians don't need their help at sea, that's not the problem.
The problem is that an attack on Syria could result in open war with China. What will that do to everyone, war with one of youf most important trading partners? Forget the military activity, where do you sell your soybeans and who builds the components for all your electronics? It's not the ships that are a problem, it's what they signify.
All the talk about who's got the biggest navy is short-sighted. I get "Rule Brittania, Brittania rule the waves!" stuck in my head when reading your posts Zec! What has been is what will be, and there is nothing new under the sun. A crown does not last forever.
Because there are deeper issues at play than just counting who has more guns in their gun cabinet.
So on that note: As far as I can tell from the media, the Russian fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean well outnumbers the US fleet right now. That may change in a few weeks with the arrival of a US carrier group. But right now Trump has few options to attack Syria, and any ship that tried would be seriously in danger. But more foolish things have been done before.
The Chinese navy is small and not a massive threat in itself. The Russians don't need their help at sea, that's not the problem.
The problem is that an attack on Syria could result in open war with China. What will that do to everyone, war with one of youf most important trading partners? Forget the military activity, where do you sell your soybeans and who builds the components for all your electronics? It's not the ships that are a problem, it's what they signify.
All the talk about who's got the biggest navy is short-sighted. I get "Rule Brittania, Brittania rule the waves!" stuck in my head when reading your posts Zec! What has been is what will be, and there is nothing new under the sun. A crown does not last forever.
Because there are deeper issues at play than just counting who has more guns in their gun cabinet.
And Donald Trump is the best president.
For all the trade problems a war with China would have for us, it would be even more so for them. If they sold our debt it would hurt us but we'd survive. If we they stoped exporting cheap Chinese a goods to us, we'd go into a recession. Eventually someone would fill the void and it would improve their economy and we'd get better trade deals out of it. It would cause drastic policy changes in spending policy and cut funding for many of socialist pet projects, I mean liberal agenda driven programs to enslave the american populace, I mean Democrate sponsored programs. The Chinese would lose their largest customer and with the economic problems they're facing and the fact that their gold reserves of roughly 20000 tonnes (2nd largest in the world, and 16,000 tonnes of that held by "private" citizens) are alocated to cover about 60000 tonnes of gold in projects and currency it would be disastrous for them. That's the reason despite any posturing they do they always back down in "the spirit of cooperation". Their fragile economic stability is directly linked to our fragile economic stability.
Edit: the numbers I got for the Chinese gold reserve come from Bullionstar.com so, take it for what you will
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These are good points to remember. On the balance of probabilities, I don't think China or Russia will allow themselves to be baited into a war yet. They are systematically working on non-US-dollar trade deals and gradually separating their economies to prepare for a future global system led by Asia and not by the US. This is inevitable, based on historical cycles. The USA-led global order's days are numbered. But the ground-work isn't finished yet.
I think the USA is trying to get them to jump into a confrontation before their preparations are complete. While their plan is to bide their time and gradually take over with as little bloodshed as possible.
However, there is still a chance that they might take the bait. And if they don't, the goading will become even more intense to try and get them to snap.
During this process of goading towards war there will continue to be many smaller conflicts in countries outside the US, Russia and China, where they can provoke each other to reveal their military capabilities to allow each to prepare for a larger future conflict if necessary, and demonstrate the capabilities they want to demonstrate in order to scare the others into submission. And these smaller conflicts will continue to cause great suffering to the people living wherever they take place. But they're foreigners so don't really matter to the big countries... (I hate this attitude with a passion).
I think the USA is trying to get them to jump into a confrontation before their preparations are complete. While their plan is to bide their time and gradually take over with as little bloodshed as possible.
However, there is still a chance that they might take the bait. And if they don't, the goading will become even more intense to try and get them to snap.
During this process of goading towards war there will continue to be many smaller conflicts in countries outside the US, Russia and China, where they can provoke each other to reveal their military capabilities to allow each to prepare for a larger future conflict if necessary, and demonstrate the capabilities they want to demonstrate in order to scare the others into submission. And these smaller conflicts will continue to cause great suffering to the people living wherever they take place. But they're foreigners so don't really matter to the big countries... (I hate this attitude with a passion).
That is what's frightening. It is never a good situation for a loyal house when a King dies. That's why we should strive to become as self sufficient as possible, not as a nation, that ship sailed in the late 50s early 60's, but as individual Men who love our families and neighbors, and as a community network of G-d fearing men. Better to be prepared for a storm than to be caught by surprise in an open field with our pants down taking a leak.
This is why I no longer like the game of chess. It teaches one to sacrifice lessor players in pursuit of the big win. If it was just a game it wouldn't matter, but I see this happening with human pawns and I hate it too.
I see other names used when speaking of Mystery Babylon the Great, but to me the identifying factor is the commodity list. The lives of men matter not to the whore/deep state/international financial interests, but I thank the ruler of heaven and earth for the knowledge that they/we matter to Him.
Judgment is coming!... and the death of the Great ho. And then comes better times without evil sociopath parasites in high places.
"Come to the supper of the great God (The sacrifice He has planned) and eat the flesh of kings and captains"
I agree with the just judge. They deserve to feed the vultures!
Preach it, parla.
Let's see: Oceania, Eurasia, and East Asia... Orwell's 1984 was meant as a warning, not an instruction manual!
But this situation is very close to what is prophesied. IMO, Daniel 7 (four beasts rising from the sea), does not reprent the old empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, but represents four major world empires (think modern "spheres of influence") that arise just before the end time. The fourth, diverse beast begins by devouring the residue: i.e. the rest of the world that isn't in one of the other three spheres. But eventually, all of them will succumb to the fourth beast, since all four beasts are seen merged in Revelation, united by the Antichrist for the common cause of persecuting the saints.
I agree, but ive heard so many people lately say it's the end of times Yesssssah, praise the L-rd, we can sit back and wait for Jesusssssah.
NO!NO!NO!NO! NO sitting back and waiting! Finish the race, we need to keep working for HIS Kingdom, even more so if the End is near.
Tonight's a night that alot of movie quotes keep popping in my Mind here is one from Young Guns II
You remember the stories John use to tell us about the the three chinamen playing Fantan? This guy runs up to them and says, "Hey, the world's coming to an end!" and the first one says, "Well, I best go to the mission and pray," and the second one says, "Well, hell, I'm gonna go and buy me a case of Mezcal and six whores," and the third one says "Well, I'm gonna finish the game." I shall finish the game, Doc.
Edit: @Shibboleth this was not directed at you
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I agree. My two thoughts on that are, first, the parable of the three stewarts given the talents. Don't bury your talents; put them to use earning interest if nothing else, before the Master's return.
And second, it helps to ditch the pretrib rapture view. If Christ is returning soon, that means there's also coming a time when I won't be able to buy or sell anything (or might possibly face beheading) without taking a certain mark that denies my Lord. May I be found faithful to endure in that hour, should I face it. And action is the best way to demonstrate faith (see also: James).
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with that film you quoted.
You're good. No offense taken.
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I'm sorry but I've worked with or trained with a lot foreign militaries, including all of the major European militaries and NATO. We even briefly worked with the Russians in Haiti. Only the Poles and the Royal Marines impressed me. Even the Germans were disappointing. I can promise you that right now there is a Marine Expeditionary Unit with a carrier and a fully reinforced battalion of Marines within a short striking distance of Syria. There is always one in the Med no matter what. They are usually positioned toward the most likely threat. I would be gobsmacked if they're not within 10 minutes flight time of that missile destroyer. Russia doesn't have that much armament it can even deploy south of the Black Sea. There will be no shooting war with Russia. Their big response right now is to threaten to restrict the export of titanium. I'm not going to check my white flag just yet.
As one who has chosen not to participate in the socialist insecurity system, I can tell you that even back in 1997 they would not let me be a co-signer on my husband's bank account without one.
For those too young to know, at least some of the American people objected strongly to what was proposed way back when, and only let that program exist after it was clearly stated that the program was Voluntary, and NEVER TO BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION.
Fast forward to my time. When getting my Costco card the lady's response to finding out I have no ssn was "Isn't that against the law?" I said "Not yet."
With some societies going cashless, and banks imposing unlawful policies they are gradually restricting everything. I can probably still cash checks made out to me at the bank they are drawn on (but it's been years since I tried. And I payed ZERO FEE when I did, but I had to tell them I have no contract with them because THEY will not allow me to open a bank account, and that the check says pay to the order of me THAT AMMOUNT, and I want every cent or their refusal in writing. Pay to the ORDER is right! Lol They WILL let someone from Mexico open an account, with no ssn.....But I was born in Arizona, so "policy" for me is different.
I'm not saying a ssn is the mark, but the guvmunt is already clearly anti Christ. And when you look at Isaiah "YHWH is our judge, YHWH is our lawmaker, YHWH is our king He will save us" you see that YHWH is Government, and all three "branches" usurp in too many cases His rightful place in our lives.
The frog is getting boiled, and many a believer isn't going to bat an eye at even international ID soon. Fema has already rolled out a different ID that is required for anyone participating in their training programs (even for small town volunteer fire dept.s) that IS a number for identification.
Just toss all that into the pot and stew it around a bit.
Good point on spread vs. concentration. However I checked when this thread popped up and Russia actually has more troops than us now. Our main advantage is in ability to bring more resources to bear than our opponents (including Russia).
Usually, the US has the technological advantage, but a lot of the talk in recent years has Russia starting to exceed us there in dribs and drabs as they've put focus on technological superiority to make up for the resource disadvantage.
The real concern isn't the strength of either Navy, both are puny. But our own Navy's vulnerability to missiles and electronic countermeasures.
What happens to domestic politics and our standing in the world when Russia sinks the first ship, or even worse, carrier?
Russia is a master of propaganda, especially military propaganda. Look up the T-95. If Russia announces a new technology it is assured that they are not even close yet.
They landed their first jet on a carrier in 1998. As far as I know they have 35 aircraft capable of the feat. China is decades behind them. They just don't have the capabilities.
I'm no fan of the American empire. It's been bad for America. I would love to see the world fend for itself for a while. It's just not going to happen through a military defeat UNLESS God intervenes.
They landed their first jet on a carrier in 1998. As far as I know they have 35 aircraft capable of the feat. China is decades behind them. They just don't have the capabilities.
I'm no fan of the American empire. It's been bad for America. I would love to see the world fend for itself for a while. It's just not going to happen through a military defeat UNLESS God intervenes.
Yes, the US navy has massive capabilities. So did the Royal Navy in WW1. But technology is changing. An effective anti-ship cruise missile, which China claims to have, could take out a carrier - load it with a nuke and it can miss but still do the job. Five hits and the US navy is severely gutted, taken out by weaponry that cost a fraction of the price of the ships. Add swarms of drones, robotic mines & torpedoes, hacking, sabotage, all sorts of relatively cheap options. The major opponents of the USA know the power and importance of your carrier groups, and how expensive they would be to replicate or replace, so will have plans to make them obsolete. That's why the Chinese navy in particular is small. They never intend to outgun the US navy on equal terms. They plan to sidestep it entirely, make it obsolete through technology. It's been done before. Battleships made earlier warships obsolete, carriers made battleships obsolete, something new will make carriers obsolete.
The Germans never assailed the Maginot line, they went around the side instead.
Also note that even though the USA has much fancy technology too, this can simply obsolete your own equipment. It was the British who built Dreadnought, and with one ship made their entire navy obsolete and allowed others to compete by simply focussing on the new technology and not trying to beat Britain by outnumbering the old.
It's not all doom and gloom. The US military is massive and very capable, and battle-trained. Just don't get overconfident.
The Germans never assailed the Maginot line, they went around the side instead.
Also note that even though the USA has much fancy technology too, this can simply obsolete your own equipment. It was the British who built Dreadnought, and with one ship made their entire navy obsolete and allowed others to compete by simply focussing on the new technology and not trying to beat Britain by outnumbering the old.
It's not all doom and gloom. The US military is massive and very capable, and battle-trained. Just don't get overconfident.
That and the fact that forced conscription for some of these countries just to pad numbers means that you get the Saddam Hussein line of surrendering troops like in 1991. They didn't want to be there to begin with. Just because I don't like the policeman of the world policies our politicians have put us in, I still respect our servicemen and women. They are better educated, better trained, and more willing than ever to protect and defend.
Remember the response that teacher in Southern California drew when he called Marines "dumb s**t uncle Louie's"? That whole community was ready to run him out of town on a rail because these men and women took their duty to their country seriously! I'm not so sure that would be true of other nations.
BTW- the teacher was fired, and is censured by the city council.